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Redemption® Collectible Trading Card Game HQ => Redemption® Resources and Thinktank => New Card Ideas => Topic started by: hi123 on May 06, 2010, 09:01:27 PM
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King Lemuels Mother. Verse- Proverbs-31, See, She is the one who spoke thoose words that Lemuel wrote in Proverbs 31, so I did not pick a Particular verse in ch.31.
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May band to king Lemuel, Search deck/discard pile for one Woman Hero and put it in hand.
2/2 , Purple Brigade.
What you think?
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King Lemuels Mother. Verse- Proverbs-31, See, She is the one who spoke thoose words that Lemuel wrote in Proverbs 31, so I did not pick a Particular verse in ch.31.
Ability-
May band to king Lemuel, Search deck/discard pile for one Woman Hero and put it in hand.
2/2 , Purple Brigade.
What you think?
female. but I like it!
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*scratches out the title and writes in "Bathsheba" *
*Can of worms!*
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wyn.
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bathsheba was king solomons mother?
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Yes she was. Isn't it cool how God took David's sin and turned it into the wisest King ever?
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Yes she was. Isn't it cool how God took David's sin and turned it into the wisest King ever?
Just to be clear, the son produced by David's sin with Bathsheba died. Solomon was their later son.
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so bathsheba and king david had two sons...first one dying, latter one being king solomon?
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so bathsheba and king david had two sons...first one dying, latter one being king solomon?
pretty sure they had others as well. King David had a lot of kids. too bad most of them ended up dying. poor Gabe Adonijah.
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Yes she was. Isn't it cool how God took David's sin and turned it into the wisest King ever?
Just to be clear, the son produced by David's sin with Bathsheba died. Solomon was their later son.
Yes, Forgot to clarify. Thanks Gabe.
so bathsheba and king david had two sons...first one dying, latter one being king solomon?
pretty sure they had others as well. King David had a lot of kids. too bad most of them ended up dying. poor Gabe Adonijah.
He had about 5 wives (not including concubines/wives we don't know by name). So yeah he'd have quite a few kids.
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Yes she was. Isn't it cool how God took David's sin and turned it into the wisest King ever?
Just to be clear, the son produced by David's sin with Bathsheba died. Solomon was their later son.
Yes, Forgot to clarify. Thanks Gabe.
Bryon=/=Gabe. BrianGabe=Gabe.
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My brain is NOT working today. /Bryon I musta confused them when I was inside Pol's head.
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My brain is NOT working today. /Bryon I musta confused them when I was inside Pol's head.
I found this particularly funny. :D
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My brain is NOT working today. /Bryon I musta confused them when I was inside Pol's head.
I found this particularly funny. :D
+1
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*scratches out the title and writes in "Bathsheba" *
*Can of worms!*
IF King Lemuel is actually King Solomon, which I personally doubt, then he did not seem to listen to ONE WORD of what his mother (Bathsheba) taught him about a virtuous wife, and what the Holy Spirit told him to write:
Prov.31:3 "Do not give your strength to women, or your ways to that which destroys Kings." This is EXACTLY what destroyed Solomon.
Prov.31:10 "Who can find a virtuous WIFE?" (singular) "For her worth is far above rubies." Solomon instead had 700 wives, most of them pagan idol worshippers, and 300 concubines. If you read what Solomon writes about wives in Proverbs, it doesn't sound like he had any "virtuous" relationships with them.
Just my two cents.
And cudos to my nephew for coming up with a card from a passage we discussed in bible class!
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he also didn't listen to Proverbs 6ish.
he was still the wisest man ever though.
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*scratches out the title and writes in "Bathsheba" *
*Can of worms!*
IF King Lemuel is actually King Solomon, which I personally doubt, then he did not seem to listen to ONE WORD of what his mother (Bathsheba) taught him about a virtuous wife, and what the Holy Spirit told him to write:
Prov.31:3 "Do not give your strength to women, or your ways to that which destroys Kings." This is EXACTLY what destroyed Solomon.
Prov.31:10 "Who can find a virtuous WIFE?" (singular) "For her worth is far above rubies." Solomon instead had 700 wives, most of them pagan idol worshippers, and 300 concubines. If you read what Solomon writes about wives in Proverbs, it doesn't sound like he had any "virtuous" relationships with them.
Not only that, but Bathsheba wasn't exactly the stellar model of a virtuous wife either. Yes, it was with the King of Israel, but it was still adultery.
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*scratches out the title and writes in "Bathsheba" *
*Can of worms!*
IF King Lemuel is actually King Solomon, which I personally doubt, then he did not seem to listen to ONE WORD of what his mother (Bathsheba) taught him about a virtuous wife, and what the Holy Spirit told him to write:
Prov.31:3 "Do not give your strength to women, or your ways to that which destroys Kings." This is EXACTLY what destroyed Solomon.
Prov.31:10 "Who can find a virtuous WIFE?" (singular) "For her worth is far above rubies." Solomon instead had 700 wives, most of them pagan idol worshippers, and 300 concubines. If you read what Solomon writes about wives in Proverbs, it doesn't sound like he had any "virtuous" relationships with them.
Not only that, but Bathsheba wasn't exactly the stellar model of a virtuous wife either. Yes, it was with the King of Israel, but it was still adultery.
Another excellent point, and further reason I think Lemuel is not Solomon. Bathsheba saying of the virtuous wife that she does her husband good and not evil all the days of her life, when she cheated on Uriah?
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*scratches out the title and writes in "Bathsheba" *
*Can of worms!*
IF King Lemuel is actually King Solomon, which I personally doubt, then he did not seem to listen to ONE WORD of what his mother (Bathsheba) taught him about a virtuous wife, and what the Holy Spirit told him to write:
Prov.31:3 "Do not give your strength to women, or your ways to that which destroys Kings." This is EXACTLY what destroyed Solomon.
Prov.31:10 "Who can find a virtuous WIFE?" (singular) "For her worth is far above rubies." Solomon instead had 700 wives, most of them pagan idol worshippers, and 300 concubines. If you read what Solomon writes about wives in Proverbs, it doesn't sound like he had any "virtuous" relationships with them.
Not only that, but Bathsheba wasn't exactly the stellar model of a virtuous wife either. Yes, it was with the King of Israel, but it was still adultery.
Another excellent point, and further reason I think Lemuel is not Solomon. Bathsheba saying of the virtuous wife that she does her husband good and not evil all the days of her life, when she cheated on Uriah?
I believe I'm supposed to live righteously, but time and time again I messed up.
Bathsheba isn't claiming she is the virtuous wife, rather, she's saying what David should have looked for.
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Agree.
OK, I'll just ask. Why exactly do many believe that King Lemuel is Solomon writing with a different name? Why can't it just be the inspired words of some unknown King? I'm just curious about what is in the bible/text to back up this belief?
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Agree.
OK, I'll just ask. Why exactly do many believe that King Lemuel is Solomon writing with a different name? Why can't it just be the inspired words of some unknown King? I'm just curious about what is in the bible/text to back up this belief?
"and what, the son of my vows?" Lemuel is the son of her vows. The first son to Bathsheba and David was a son of broken vows."
" 2 Samuel 12:24 And David comforted Bathsheba his wife, and went in unto her, and lay with her: and she bare a son, and he called his name Solomon: and the LORD loved him. 25 And he sent by the hand of Nathan the prophet; and he called his name Jedidiah, because of the LORD.
Notice, at the birth of Solomon, the Lord loved him. Then, he is called by the "name Jedidiah, because of the LORD." This is the only occurrence of the name Jedidiah in the Bible. It means "beloved of God." Truly, Solomon was the son of Bathsheba's vows. And, the one who was "beloved of God" could also be said to be the one "belonging to God" (meaning of Lemuel). So, although the identity cannot be nailed down with absolute certainty, there is good reason to think that Solomon is here referring to himself."
just some things I found while googling.
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Well I assume
Proverbs 1:1. The proverbs of Solomon son of David, king of Israel
Lends to it and it COULD be some other king but the words are particularly wise as well. The fact King Solomon has seemingly wrote under different names lends to it (Ecclesiastes 1:1. The words of the Teacher, son of David, king in Jerusalem:.) as well. There is no solid proof that it is King Solomon but the placement of the text (In Solomon's contribution to the bible and in a book about King Solomon's Proverbs)
Also: King Solomon had David's weakness, a weakness for beautiful women even though he KNEW better.