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Redemption® Collectible Trading Card Game HQ => Redemption® Resources and Thinktank => New Card Ideas => Topic started by: dermo4christ on April 17, 2016, 12:49:24 AM
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Hey guys! My brother in law and I were discussing my Daniel deck and thought that King Darius should be printed. Here is my take on it!
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Let me know your thoughts!
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I like it! Given his prominence in the Book of Daniel, I'm surprised that there hasn't been a King Darius printed yet...and it would be great to print a King Cryus too!
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I like it! Given his prominence in the Book of Daniel, I'm surprised that there hasn't been a King Darius printed yet...and it would be great to print a King Cryus too!
Yes...when i was trying to find the verse to go with the ability I read a little about Cyrus...not too familiar with him though....I will have to read a little more about him before I create the card!!! :)
Darius' rescue ability is nice right after you play Mayhem!!! dc 6 evil characters! Great for multiplaying!
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I really like this card! I'm glad to see some one making some Persian cards, they really need a boost!
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Why is he Crimson? The Darius from Daniel, if he existed at all, was a Mede. He was king of Babylon yes but was not Babylonian by heritage. Also the Medes were not the same people as Persians, so I doubt that Darius was both Median and Persian.
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I agree with Hobbit as far as the civilization identifiers and brigades. Also, what does "extra cards" refer to? There is no definition for that in Redemption currently.
Overall I think he's okay. His capture might be too strong even with discarding a card from deck. I like his hero ability a lot.
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He's a pretty decent stand-alone character but a dedicated Daniel deck relies on having The Foretelling Angel which protects your deck from discard. That would make him not all that great of an Evil Character once TFA is out.
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Why is he Crimson? The Darius from Daniel, if he existed at all, was a Mede. He was king of Babylon yes but was not Babylonian by heritage. Also the Medes were not the same people as Persians, so I doubt that Darius was both Median and Persian.
I made him crimson to go along with the babylonian cards. I know he wasn't babylonian, but i do know he was Median. I wasn't quite sure about he persian, but I can fix it. Honestly, I wasn't quite sure what evil brigade to make him. I think he should at least stay either crimson or brown. I don't think there are many median cards in the game besides the Median sites. But i think crimson and/or brown should suffice.
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I agree with Hobbit as far as the civilization identifiers and brigades. Also, what does "extra cards" refer to? There is no definition for that in Redemption currently.
Overall I think he's okay. His capture might be too strong even with discarding a card from deck. I like his hero ability a lot.
Extra cards means cards drawn besides the normal opening and turn based draws. I wasn't quite sure how to word it.
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He's a pretty decent stand-alone character but a dedicated Daniel deck relies on having The Foretelling Angel which protects your deck from discard. That would make him not all that great of an Evil Character once TFA is out.
That is true about the Daniel decks...I completely forgot about TFA. Maybe I can reword it to something like this: "If blocking, you may discard the bottom card of deck, regardless of protection, to capture a hero. If rescuing, you may, once per game, release a captured character to discard up to X Evil Characters." X = number of cards in opponent's hand rounded down
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Here is the updated version of King Darius. I changed his blocking ability since Daniel decks protect against discard. I was thinking of doing a "regardless of protection" but adding that makes it too wordy. I also changed the X identifier to make it easier to trigger. Making X the number of cards opponent drew, I think, could only trigger if mayhem was played during battle. I think making X the number of cards in opponent's hand rounded down makes things a bit easier if mayhem is not in your hand or in your deck for that matter (but who doesn't put mayhem in their deck???? lol!) I also changed his evil brigade to gray as he wasn't a true babylonian or persian by heritage. Not sure if there is a color representing the Median dynasty so I made it gray since it's unknown at this point. Anyway, here is the updated version:
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Why did you add rounded down? did you mean half rounded down? because right now his identifier makes no sense. i still think he should be brown, 1) because median is pretty much the same as persian, and 2) he was the ruler of persia, so he should be brown, even if it's not his "heritage"
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Brown would still be an ideal brigade from him because Medes and Persians are fairly similar ethnically. Like Goths and Visigoth or something. The point was, only, that he was Median and only Median, which is not to say that Medians can't share a brigade with Persians or have a similar abilities.
The Identifier is slightly off. You will never have a decimal count for the amount of cards in your hand, only positive integer counts or zero. But, you would word cards like Sinning hand with "rounded down/up" when you are taking half of something and may get a decimal answer.
The special ability is interesting to me because I feel like evil darius isn't strong enough and good darius is too powerful. You have let opponent play first and kill you and a walking acop. It's close though, I like the Hero ability on the evil character actually, with the modification of set aside in place of discard and a different condition for x, of course, like you had originally with the "extra cards". I don't really know what the hero ability could be, however, King Darius doesn't necessarily need to be split. He's fairly similar to Nebuchadnezzar.
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Brown would still be an ideal brigade from him because Medes and Persians are fairly similar ethnically. Like Goths and Visigoth or something. The point was, only, that he was Median and only Median, which is not to say that Medians can't share a brigade with Persians or have a similar abilities.
The Identifier is slightly off. You will never have a decimal count for the amount of cards in your hand, only positive integer counts or zero. But, you would word cards like Sinning hand with "rounded down/up" when you are taking half of something and may get a decimal answer.
The special ability is interesting to me because I feel like evil darius isn't strong enough and good darius is too powerful. You have let opponent play first and kill you and a walking acop. It's close though, I like the Hero ability on the evil character actually, with the modification of set aside in place of discard and a different condition for x, of course, like you had originally with the "extra cards". I don't really know what the hero ability could be, however, King Darius doesn't necessarily need to be split. He's fairly similar to Nebuchadnezzar.
Yeah, sorry about the identifier mistake. I had 1/2 rounded down in my head but forgot to type it....lol. I thought brown would be good for him but i was confused as to what you meant. Sorry about that. And yes, I do kind of agree that he may not need to split. I'm thinking just because he released Daniel and told everyone to worship God doesn't mean that he actually, genuinely converted. I will fix it that he is only an evil character with a brown brigade and I will also fix the identifier to make more sense. Thanks for the input!
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Here is the updated fix: I made him single brigade evil brown to represent his rule over Persia, warrior class character for fighting in battles throughout his multiple reigns, X now is back to number of cards opponent drew as Mayhem can now be used to trigger his ability to make it pretty nasty. His ability is once per game since the mayhem + Darius combo is powerful. So here it is:
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Nice, I like it. I think he would be even more devastating if he was converted to white. Nice job!
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There's always Holy Grail!
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And love