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Title: King Cyrus
Post by: Minister Polarius on July 23, 2010, 02:10:34 AM
King Cyrus
11/11 Brown Evil Character, WC
-King of Persia, Cannot be Ignored-
"Immune to N.T. Heroes. If a Good Prophet is in play, Convert Cyrus. Cannot be Negated."
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King Cyrus
11/11 Purple Hero, WC
-King of Persia, Cannot be Converted-
"Search Discard Pile for a Temple Artifact (except Ark of the Covenant and its contents). The first Enhancement played this battle Cannot be Interrupted unless opponent Discards a Warrior-Class Evil Character from his territory."
Ezra 1:1

Reign of Cyrus
0/0 Brown/Purple Enhancement, TC
"Return all Captured Characters to owners' territories. Place on a Persian King: Convert King to Purple. Protect all Characters from Capture."
Ezra 1:2
Title: Re: King Cyrus
Post by: BubbleBoy on July 23, 2010, 12:19:45 PM
The Lampstand recursion is my favorite part of this. Fabulous job as always Pol. :thumbup:
Title: Re: King Cyrus
Post by: JSB23 on July 23, 2010, 12:39:43 PM
Hmmm..... with altar of Dagon.......
 :thumbup: Excellent
Title: Re: King Cyrus
Post by: CJSports on July 23, 2010, 12:51:31 PM
another saul paulish kinda card no offense but no thank you pol and also when are you going to accept my challenge or decline it. :maul:
Title: Re: King Cyrus
Post by: Professoralstad on July 26, 2010, 01:43:57 PM
Hmmm..... with altar of Dagon.......
 :thumbup: Excellent

This is true. Altar of Dagon + Cyrus = TGT is done. Your opponent would need Grapes, AotL, Plague of Frogs on Joanna, or be able to discard him in territory. Else, gg mate.

Yet, it does require at least two, and probably 3+ cards to pull it off effectively, so it's not an OP'd counter. And even if you don't pull it off, Throne of David becomes that much better.
Title: Re: King Cyrus
Post by: drb1200 on July 26, 2010, 02:08:01 PM
One question, why is CBI and CBC in the identifiers?

Great job, btw.
Title: Re: King Cyrus
Post by: The Warrior on July 26, 2010, 02:12:08 PM
One question, why is CBI and CBC in the identifiers?

Great job, btw.
same here  ??? CBI is kinda Op'd in Idnfr's
Title: Re: King Cyrus
Post by: Minister Polarius on July 26, 2010, 02:16:05 PM
CBIgnored in identifier means the ability is always active, even without placing him in battle. Basically, it stops him from being ignored pre-block.

The CBC in identifier ensures that you can't re-convert Cyrus. Since it's on a Hero and there are like 2 good Evil converts, it will almost never matter.
Title: Re: King Cyrus
Post by: TheJaylor on July 26, 2010, 02:46:27 PM
The first Enhancement played this battle Cannot be Interrupted unless opponent Discards a Warrior-Class Evil Character from his territory.

Ok problem it should say the first good Enhancement otherwise the 11/11 hero is toast. If it did not say that he is way UP'd and you would have to use Altar of Dagon so he doesn't become a hero who says the first Enhancement CBI...

  ~Jayden
Title: Re: King Cyrus
Post by: Minister Polarius on July 26, 2010, 02:53:57 PM
Throne of David says hi. It's a balancing tool, making Cyrus a high-risk, high-rewards Hero.
Title: Re: King Cyrus
Post by: D-man on July 26, 2010, 02:55:26 PM
I really like the cards.  Except maybe the fact that Cyrus can't block when prophets are around (which is fairly often).  I assume his ability would check for prophets only when he enters battle (I don't know much about ongoing v. activates once)?
Title: Re: King Cyrus
Post by: Professoralstad on July 26, 2010, 03:03:53 PM
I really like the cards.  Except maybe the fact that Cyrus can't block when prophets are around (which is fairly often).  I assume his ability would check for prophets only when he enters battle (I don't know much about ongoing v. activates once)?

Yeah, I can't think of any Brown EC that could bring him into battle whose ability Cannot be Negated in order to get him converted and then has numbers low enough to not be negated. Especially not female ones from Thesaurus that I would say 80-90% of competitive players use in at least one deck... ::)
And yes, the ability would only check for Prophets when it activates.
Title: Re: King Cyrus
Post by: Deist on July 26, 2010, 03:13:00 PM
I don't understand his evil side...much less why he has an evil side. I think his good side and the enhancement are awesome though.

What makes him evil? Why do you suggest he is immune to NT?
Title: Re: King Cyrus
Post by: Professoralstad on July 26, 2010, 03:19:24 PM
I don't understand his evil side...much less why he has an evil side. I think his good side and the enhancement are awesome though.

What makes him evil? Why do you suggest he is immune to NT?

He started out as a Pagan King. His meritorious deeds later on are why he becomes good.
Title: Re: King Cyrus
Post by: Deist on July 26, 2010, 03:41:12 PM
...Well many characters should then start off as evil characters. The woman at the well is a perfect example of a character who could have been an evil/good character. I think Saul/Paul was created as such because of the damage Saul did. Cyrus, to my knowledge, never hindered the Israelites in anyway. In fact, he forced the end of the Babylonian exile down their throats. He made them leave Babylon...if it wasn't for him Israel would possibly have never been reestablished.

I think Cyrus is the equivalent to a King David or Paul. He has one of the most profound effects in the histories Judaism and Christianity. What evil did he commit to warrant him being an evil character?
Title: Re: King Cyrus
Post by: JSB23 on July 26, 2010, 06:16:02 PM
He started out as a Pagan King. His meritorious deeds later on are why he becomes good.
This and he's Immune to NT because It kills TGT
Title: Re: King Cyrus
Post by: crustpope on July 26, 2010, 11:04:43 PM
I love this card Pol.  Once again you have done a masterful job.
Title: Re: King Cyrus
Post by: Minister Polarius on July 26, 2010, 11:58:10 PM
Thank you, sir! Us card creators have to stick together!
Title: Re: King Cyrus
Post by: TheKarazyvicePresidentRR on July 27, 2010, 02:39:39 PM
Love it, my green CTB cards make me love this card twice as much.
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