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Redemption® Collectible Trading Card Game HQ => Redemption® Resources and Thinktank => New Card Ideas => Topic started by: stefferweffer on May 26, 2010, 03:32:05 PM
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I say "again" because I did a search first and found a lot of ideas provided by Stamp and others. I am not trying to "steal" the Cyrus idea, but rather consolidate it to what we know from the Scriptures, to make his ability actually useful, and to make his ability easy to understand.
King Cyrus
8/12 White/Purple Hero, Warrior-Class Persian King (warrior class is questionable, so I'm going off some secular history here)
When this hero enters play, immediately return all captured OT heroes to owners' territories. No OT hero can be captured as long as Cyrus remains in play. Cannot be negated.
Ezra 1:2-3 "Thus says Cyrus king of Persia, 'The Lord, the God of heaven, has given me all the kingdoms of the earth, and He has appointed me to build Him a house in Jerusalem, which is in Judah. Whoever there is among you of all His people, may his God be with him! Let him go up to Jerusalem which is in Judah, and rebuild the house of the Lord, the God of Israel; He is the God who is in Jerusalem."
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I like the card and his SA does line up with scripture & history, but I'm confused about whether he should be a hero or not. I know he freed captures/deported Jews from Babylon when he conquered them, but wasn't Persia pagan?
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I like the card and his SA does line up with scripture & history, but I'm confused about whether he should be a hero or not. I know he freed captures/deported Jews from Babylon when he conquered them, but wasn't Persia pagan?
Was Healing of Naaman a evil thing?
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I like the card and his SA does line up with scripture & history, but I'm confused about whether he should be a hero or not. I know he freed captures/deported Jews from Babylon when he conquered them, but wasn't Persia pagan?
Was Healing of Naaman a evil thing?
No, I just found a scripture that could support him being a hero, about to post.
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I'm confused about whether he should be a hero or not.
In Isa 44:28 & 45:1 King Cyrus is actually called, "God's Shephard" & "His anointed", but here's another thing. King Saul is both a hero & evil character and he was also called "God's anointed" many times in scripture. So I think you could actually go with two versions. =D
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Normally, for a "pagan" king, I would agree that they be evil. Unlike Nebuchadnezzar and others though, I'm having a hard time finding anything bad said of Cyrus in scripture. History records that he did this "freeing of the captives" for other cultures also, and his own words declare that he is doing it because of Jehovah's blessing. He is elsewhere called by God as His shepherd and His annointed.
Just seemed pretty heroic to me.
Rahab was "pagan", and became a proselyte. So were the Hittites, but Uriah was a righteous man. Surely no one is suggesting that post Abraham only descendants of Abraham can be heroes.
Thanks for listening.
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Probably the best example is King Hiram, who ruled over Tyre, another pagan nation. He did good things for the people of Israel, and was made a Hero. King Darius could go either way, but I think Cyrus would probably be a Hero for sure.