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I always feel like I am too negative in these Sorry for that, I'm honestly just trying to give constructive feedback based on what I see.

Conversion of Nineveh is far too strong.  It is a pre-block super-AoCP with Hidden Treasures (note that CBP is more or less CBN in this case), and combined with Isaiah's Scroll (or your planned Jonah) it can also be CBN.  There are no restrictions on it at all to warrant that level of power, and far more restrictive cards have been limited for converting far fewer EC.  It should convert all EC in battle at its absolute strongest, and even then should lose the CBP and gain a restrictive element at the same time.

The Second Mission is almost the same level of power, even if it has the restrictions.  It may require that you set Jonah aside earlier, but TFM searches it out and thus you can get him back, immediately search out TSM, play it in Prep, and pre-block super-AoCP, while only hitting your opponent's EC.  In fact, you could do this ALL in one turn by setting him aside with TFM, playing Psalm of Thanksgiving, and then playing TSM to do the above.

I'm not a fan of Psalm of Thanksgiving.  I actually like the concept, I really do, but I feel it is going to lead to some broken combos (as above and below) and is long/confusing.  Cards like Witnesses of Creation (7), Gathering of Angels (4), Training in Righteousness (4), Passover Preparations (4), and Built on the Rock (3) all have turn limits attached to them for good reason.  Even the feasts and offerings could be easily abused by such a card.

The Great Fish has way too much going on for him, but I actually REALLY like the concept as a fortress.  You could allow a defeated hero to be placed there for 3 turns, so that no matter what defeated them they could be 'kept safe' until they are sent out, with a limit of 1 hero held.  Then your protection and 'not in play' components just go to protecting that hero, instead of breaking the game with a card that literally cannot be targeted while still being in battle (even if it cannot rescue souls).

For Jonah and his mission, to balance things, why don't you have him have no special ability (or a much lesser one) and give him the CBN convert as part of a more balanced mission card set?

King needs a little work.  CBN protection from discard also protects from discard by the numbers, and should be avoided wherever possible, IMO.

Nineveh is just too much going on, it should be focused and not have that many abilities (and abilities hiding in the identifier).  Also, cards of dual-type like this should probably be avoided, since they are much more difficult to handle in rulings and are confusing to players.

I really like the idea behind Jonah's Anger, and that's a fun card.

Not sure how I feel about the dominant.  It is very interesting, and as a dominant may not be too powerful, especially since it protects ALL players' converted characters.  I'm intrigued at least, and it could work.

I'll leave it to others to comment on the cards now, I'll just make a couple of notes on the follow-up.

Still think there is way too much going on with the dual-type cards, and think they would be better as fortresses.

As for Nineveh and her King: Unless it wasn't clear, the whole "protect from discard" thing everywhere is to coincide with how Nineveh was protected from God's destruction when they repented. That's the entire concept behind God's Reproof. As such, I don't really see a problem with the King, so I kept him as is.

Just to comment on this, you have a CBN protection from discard.  That means from abilities AND from the numbers.  You have a 3/4 hero that just doesn't die by the numbers, and that is a little too powerful.  Also, as a hero he would not be protected, as God's protection for Nineveh was for them to have the chance to repent, not after necessarily

*sigh* Well, I suppose this is what I should expect from an Elder.
I'm glad you at least like some of the cards, Redoubter. Thanks a lot. I mean it.

I always feel like the mean old man in this board.  Honestly I love the concepts, I just always want to point out potential problems (you could probably ask other playtesters about how annoying I can be  ), and I have some personal preferences (don't like PBI, complicated cards, and CBN protection from discard) that colors my input.  Like I said, I hope some others come along with more advice/comments, because I think Jonah's entire story is kind of neglected right now

I really like the artwork. The Elder is right in his comments and concerns. But I'm delighted to see some biblical stories come into the light and get some attention. I like variety, so it's neat to see what other stuff comes to the surface.

In the end, I suppose I'm more interested in the look of the card and the relevance of the card's function to it's quote. I am no playtester, so I understand that some of my cards will not always be satisfactory in that regard. All the same, thank you everyone for your comments! After making Nineveh, I feel obligated to cover another little bible story that took place there...