Author Topic: Jael and Support Updated (Read 3247 times)

Arrthoa · « **on:** November 17, 2011, 10:35:57 AM »

Jael
Red 6/5
Ability: Choose Male Evil Character to block. Discard enhancements cannot be negated by Male Canaanites.
Reference: Same

Jael's Invite
Red 2/2 TC
Ability: Place on a Female.If a Male Evil Character is in Battle, Discard this Card to Search Deck for a Red Enhancement with a Discard Ability. Cannot be Prevented.

Jael's Nail
Red 3/2
Identifiers: Depicts Weapon
Ability: Discard a Male Human to Place on Jael in Battle. Each time Jael enters Battle, Discard a Male Human. Limit Twice per game.

Red Wing · « **Reply #1 on:** November 17, 2011, 10:58:23 AM »

Quote from: Arrthoa on November 17, 2011, 10:35:57 AM

Jael
Red 6/5
Ability: Choose a Male Evil Character to block. Discard enhancements cannot be negated if played against Male Canaanites. Cannot be Negated by a Canaanite.
Reference: Same

Pretty good, but I'd make so Jael can choose opponents ECs to block.

Red Warrior · « **Reply #2 on:** November 17, 2011, 12:32:27 PM »

This isn't necessarily a bad thing, but Tower of Thebez would still negate her ability (actually that may be a cool means of recourse).

It should be noted that Canaan + Sisera makes the current Jael's ability work effectively and Biblically as-is.

Activate Canaan
Give them Sisera
RA with Jael
Choose Sisera to Block
Sisera (when blocking Red or Gold) makes Enhancements CBN
Play Jael's Nail
Sisera gets the 'point' *insert groan*

What Jael needs is the "ingenuity" (search) to turn a tent stake into a weapon. Exchange a GE in hand for one in deck?

Arrthoa · « **Reply #3 on:** November 17, 2011, 10:42:57 PM »

I believe that only Evil Enhancements cannot be negated, not both good and evil

drb1200 · « **Reply #4 on:** November 18, 2011, 07:44:25 AM »

Quote from: Arrthoa on November 17, 2011, 10:42:57 PM

I believe that only Evil Enhancements cannot be negated, not both good and evil

That's not true, although lately Cactus has been shying from CBN abilities and leaning towards CBP and CBI.

Arrthoa · « **Reply #5 on:** November 18, 2011, 11:32:00 AM »

I was talking about Sisera's ability

SomeKittens · « **Reply #6 on:** November 18, 2011, 11:45:36 AM »

Quote from: Arrthoa on November 17, 2011, 10:42:57 PM

I believe that only Evil Enhancements cannot be negated, not both good and evil

Nope, both are CBN. Just like Joe makes JIP CBN.

Arrthoa · « **Reply #7 on:** November 18, 2011, 11:48:32 AM »

Well ae the two support cards good or do they need improvement?

Red Wing · « **Reply #8 on:** November 18, 2011, 11:52:29 AM »

I like them a lot, but I think it would be nice if there were a couple more OT female heroes in Red to make the enhancements more useful.

SomeKittens · « **Reply #9 on:** November 18, 2011, 12:44:11 PM »

Quote from: Red Wing on November 18, 2011, 11:52:29 AM

I like them a lot, but I think it would be nice if there were a couple more OT female heroes in Red to make the enhancements more useful.

Invite is nice because it doesn't require a red female, just a red and a female (OT)

Red Wing · « **Reply #10 on:** November 18, 2011, 12:50:49 PM »

Quote from: SomeKittens on November 18, 2011, 12:44:11 PM

Quote from: Red Wing on November 18, 2011, 11:52:29 AM
I like them a lot, but I think it would be nice if there were a couple more OT female heroes in Red to make the enhancements more useful.
Invite is nice because it doesn't require a red female, just a red and a female (OT)

True, Invite+Abigail+David then search for Bravery of David would be nice combo.

Nameless · « **Reply #11 on:** November 18, 2011, 01:56:11 PM »

if Jael's nail was on Jael would every time she went out get to discard a ec?

SomeKittens · « **Reply #12 on:** November 18, 2011, 02:01:24 PM »

Quote from: Nameless on November 18, 2011, 01:56:11 PM

if Jael's nail was on Jael would every time she went out get to discard a ec?

Yes, OT male.

Arrthoa · « **Reply #13 on:** November 18, 2011, 02:49:19 PM »

If on her I would only think twice or it be OP

Nameless · « **Reply #14 on:** November 18, 2011, 02:54:03 PM »

Quote from: Arrthoa on November 18, 2011, 02:49:19 PM

If on her I would only think twice or it be OP

That was my thought.

Red Wing · « **Reply #15 on:** November 18, 2011, 03:02:40 PM »

Yeah, limit twice per game might be best

drb1200 · « **Reply #16 on:** November 18, 2011, 05:50:18 PM »

Quote from: Arrthoa on November 18, 2011, 11:32:00 AM

I was talking about Sisera's ability

Oh! Gotchanevermind

Nameless · « **Reply #17 on:** November 18, 2011, 06:03:24 PM »

Quote from: Red Wing on November 18, 2011, 03:02:40 PM

Yeah, limit twice per might be best

limit twice per what.

Red Wing · « **Reply #18 on:** November 18, 2011, 06:04:21 PM »

game.

megamanlan · « **Reply #19 on:** November 22, 2011, 12:44:14 PM »

Quote from: Arrthoa on November 17, 2011, 10:35:57 AM

Jael
Red 6/5
Ability: Choose Opponent's Male Evil Character to block. Discard enhancements cannot be negated by Male Canaanites.
Reference: Same

Jael's Invite
Red 2/2 TC
Ability: Place on a O.T. Female. Once Evil Character is present, Interrupt the battle and discard this to search deck for Red Discard Enhancement. Cannot be Prevented.

Jael's Nail
Red 3/2
Identifiers: Jael may retain as weapon
Ability: If used by a O.T. Female Hero, Discard a O.T. Male Evil Character. Cannot be Negated if used by lone Hero. Limit twice per game.
Reference: Same

Jael: I'd go back to 'You may choose a Male Evil Character to block this Hero.' So that u can choose your's or your opponents. And change 'Discard Enhancements' to 'Discard Abilities on Enhancements cannot be Negated by a Caananite'
Otherwise I like this!

Jael's Invite: quite nice, just some of the wording needs to be changed, put it like this:
'Place on a Female. If a Male Evil Character is in Battle, Discard this Card to Search Deck for a Red Enhancement with a Discard Ability. Cannot be Prevented."
I do like the card though!

Jael's Nail: This one is okay. It would be easier to put it as "Discard a Male Human to Place on Jael in Battle. Each time Jael enters Battle, Discard a Male Human."

Arrthoa · « **Reply #20 on:** November 22, 2011, 01:29:37 PM »

fixed

megamanlan · « **Reply #21 on:** November 22, 2011, 02:38:45 PM »

Good, also then u can drop the Identifier, but add that it Depicts a Weapon.
I'm pretty sure it does.

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