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Redemption® Collectible Trading Card Game HQ => Redemption® Resources and Thinktank => New Card Ideas => Topic started by: megamanlan on September 05, 2011, 05:26:49 PM
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Stephen
7/7 Blue/Gold Hero
Acts 6:8, Deacon, Martyr
May Band to a Martyr or Deacon. Protect Heroes from Conversion. Negate Curses. If Discarded, Search Deck for a NT Good Enhancement or Convert an Evil Character to a Gold Hero.
Philip the Evanglist
4/6 Blue Hero
Acts 6:5, Deacon, X = The number of Deacons in play.
Band to a Deacon to Search Discard Pile a NT Blue Good Enhancement of */2 or less and put it under Deck or Draw X (Max 2). Immune to Heretics.
Timon
3/4 Blue Hero
Acts 6:5, Deacon
May Band to a Deacon. If Opponent has the Most Redeemed Souls, Reveal and Discard 1 Evil Card in Opponents hand to Draw 1.
Prochorus
3/4 Blue Hero
Acts 6:5, Deacon
May band to a Deacon to Negate Reduce Abilities. Protect Deacons from Capture and Removal while in play.
Nicanor
5/5 Blue/Gold Hero
Acts 6:5, Deacon, Martyr, X= The number of Heroes in your Discard Pile - The number of Characters Removed.
May band to a Deacon or a Martyr. The player with the least amount of Cards in their hand must Draw X. If Discarded, Discard the top X Cards of Opponents Deck.
Parmenas
4/6 Blue/Gold Hero
Acts 6:5, Deacon, Martyr
May band to a Deacon. Negate Protect Abilities. Site Access to NT Sites. If Discarded, Search Discard Pile for a NT Good Enhancement and Activate it's effect. Cannot be Interrupted.
Nicolas of Antioch
5/5 Blue Hero
Acts 6:5, Deacon
May band to a Deacon to Search Deck for a Conversion Enhancement. If Opponent does not have a Lost Soul, Holder may Retreat to Search Opponents Deck for a Lost Soul and play it. Cannot be Prevented.
What do u think?
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I'd give Acts/Deacons its own brigade and make the Martyr brigade Red.
Stephen should definitely be ridiculous powerful. That version just doesn't quite cut it imo.
Phillip is solid. A standard D3 Band hero.
Timon is starting to get into a bit too much. Phillip to Timon is a free D5 every turn plus taking out whatever they may use to stop you.
Prochorus is solid.
Nicanor definitely sends it over the top. That's at least D6 every attack.
Parmenas is pretty broken make it an N.T. Enhancement at least.
Nicholas is solid.
Overall, nice ideas, but a bit too much since they can all chain together.
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Bravo. I just dont understand philip the evangalists ability completely. why would you want to place a NT b lue good enhencement beneath deck?
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Definitely making a type 2 with all of those and Abraham's Servant to Ur. But seriously Claudia to 1 to another to another to another to another to another to another to another might be a little OP'd when you can do it every turn and use all of their special abilities. Other than that, beef up Nicanor a little and the rest are solid. Maybe you should pair them up somehow like disciples so that one of them can band to a certain one and so forth.
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Alright, First off, there really isnt anything for Blue, so I dont understand what u mean.
Also Revelation kinda denotes Martyrs to be Gold or White. And I like Gold.
For Stephen, I think I'll change Stephen to "... Or convert an Evil Character to a Gold Hero"
Phillip, I forgot to put Search Discard pile for an NT Blue Enhancement of */2 or less.
For Timon I'll change it to Draw 1.
Nicanor: Not exactly, first off, it's set to allow ur Opponent to draw If he's not the first in Battle, and second it requires Heroes in Ur Discard Pile - all Removed Characters. So there's a possiblity that if u use healing cards or HT that u won't draw much if any.
As for Parmenas, I'll change it to an NT Good Enhacement.
Is this good then?
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Well I'm not sure what Claudia does, but the problem w/ that is no place in the Bible are any of them mentioned beyond Stephen and Phillip. So there is no idea of how u could do that.
Besides this is kinda ment to counter 'endless Evil Banding Chains' and plus Warriors already do this.
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Well I'm not sure what Claudia does, but the problem w/ that is no place in the Bible are any of them mentioned beyond Stephen and Phillip. So there is no idea of how u could do that.
Besides this is kinda ment to counter 'endless Evil Banding Chains' and plus Warriors already do this.
Claudia can band to any N.T. Male hero. Yeah, I guess I wasn't sure if they were mentioned together at all but the thing is, is that Warrior-Class heroes only band and negate. These guys together would band, draw, Negate curses, put cards beneath deck, be immune to heretics (which won't do much because they usually don't hurt you they just protect other things. Maybe he should ignore heretics), protect from capture, search for conversion enhancements, and so on and so forth. But I guess they'd need an interrupt besides Abes Servant otherwise it would all be negated except banding and Parmenas but I'm sure that will happen in the near future.
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And plus Household Idols kicks them all out and keeps them from coming in.
As for Claudia, well that would make it as the 8th Hero for me.
Plus, My plans for Enhancements would require only Deacons in Battle.
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The (max 2) on Phillip is superfluous. In order to use the draw, there needs to be at least two deacons in play. You can just make it a D2.
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I'm trying to halt some of the drawing that made on the Deacons.
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Any other ideas for the Deacons?
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I really don't know why every single one of them can band. Did they seriously run around together in one big clump all the time? lol
Other than that, I agree with Pol that Martyrs could be red (to give red more of a NT theme, even if just a small one).
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Did anybody think of a NT Teal theme?
Teal has got to be the least played brigade and it is practically never played alone. Maybe making them all teal and creating a new line of enhancements for them could be the answer. Most brigades have a OT and a NT theme (or at least a few cards and characters for both) (granted teal does have 2 NT characters but both are still priests)
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Actually there is currently a NT Teal Brigade. NT Priests, its just not been expanded on yet.
As for Red being the Martyr brigade, as I said Revelation suggests that Martyrs would be White or Gold.
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@Browarod Well, their only mentioned once...
Except for Stephen and Phillip
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Just an FYI, double posting is frowned upon. Edit your post instead.
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Teal is a theme-specific brigade. It was designed to house the Priests, and as such does not need a different N.T. and O.T. theme. Just as Orange is Demons whether they be O.T. or N.T. and Silver is Angels. That makes it mostly an O.T. Brigade by default, since there are only a smattering of good priests in the N.T.
As for making Martyrs gold v. red, gold already has an N.T. theme, red does not. People who are killed for the faith are known traditionally as "Red Martyrs," as opposed to White Martyrs who are not killed for their faith. Christ is described as a Mighty Warrior for his death on the cross, so there is crossover with the thematic elements.
You mentioned that you had a reason for Martyrs to be Gold or White. I'd like to hear that reason, since everything I see points to red.
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I'll find the verses soon.
Also as to double posting, I dont really see anything wrong w/ it if ur adding info.
If ur changing what ur saying then modify not if ur saying a new thing and don't want to edit the post.
+ it's also harder for me because I'm on an iPod (usually)
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Know that if you continue to double-post on this board from this point on, your second post will be deleted.
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Plz note that on my iPod when I try to modify a post it doesn't allow me to easily. Not sure why.
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Plz note that on my iPod when I try to modify a post it doesn't allow me to easily. Not sure why.
So use a normal computer like everyone else? lol
I again state my support for Martyrs being red rather than gold or white. Gold and white both already have firmly entrenched NT themes (one of which is top tier), and Pol's statement about red martyrs seems to make it fit red even more.
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Because I'm out a lot. So my iPod is easier to use.
I thought that there was a strong Warrior setup coming for NT Red.
+ Gold just has Samaritians and it seems very small to me.
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It's actually Luke Heroes, and there's a pretty good number.
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Over half my posts are from my IPhone,
Believe me… its very easy to edit a post on it.
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I thought it was Samaritians, because about half of the Cards were for Samaritians.
Well, when Im on my iPod (and my Mac) whenever I have to scroll to edit on here, it bounces back to the top. So I try to edit as little on possible.
As for the verses, here are the ones that I look at,
"Then a white robe was given to each of them; and it was said to them that they should rest a little while longer, until both the number of their fellow servants and their brethren, who would be killed as they were, was completed." (Revelation 6:11 NKJV)
And,
"And I said to him, “Sir, you know.” So he said to me, “These are the ones who come out of the great tribulation, and washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. "(Revelation 7:14 NKJV)
My main verse for them being Gold:
"And I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was committed to them. Then I sawthe souls of those who had been beheaded for their witness to Jesus and for the word of God, who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received his mark on their foreheads or on their hands. And they lived and reigned with Christ for a thousand years." (Revelation 20:4 NKJV)
And I thought I remembered a couple verses that mentioned a reward for being a martyr. Which if u are martyred or persecuted it probably means ur doing it right.
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Over half my posts are from my IPhone,
Believe me… its very easy to edit a post on it.
I have no trouble editing posts on my Droid.
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I don't know why it's hard for me then, it just doesn't work right for me I guess...