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Stephen
7/7 Blue/Gold Hero
Acts 6:8, Deacon, Martyr
May Band to a Martyr or Deacon. Protect Heroes from Conversion. Negate Curses. If Discarded, Search Deck for a NT Good Enhancement or Convert an Evil Character to a Gold Hero.

Philip the Evanglist
4/6 Blue Hero
Acts 6:5, Deacon, X = The number of Deacons in play.
Band to a Deacon to Search Discard Pile a NT Blue Good Enhancement of */2 or less and put it under Deck or Draw X (Max 2). Immune to Heretics.

Timon
3/4 Blue Hero
Acts 6:5, Deacon
May Band to a Deacon. If Opponent has the Most Redeemed Souls, Reveal and Discard 1 Evil Card in Opponents hand to Draw 1.

Prochorus
3/4 Blue Hero
Acts 6:5, Deacon
May band to a Deacon to Negate Reduce Abilities. Protect Deacons from Capture and Removal while in play.

Nicanor
5/5 Blue/Gold Hero
Acts 6:5, Deacon, Martyr, X= The number of Heroes in your Discard Pile - The number of Characters Removed.
May band to a Deacon or a Martyr. The player with the least amount of Cards in their hand must Draw X. If Discarded, Discard the top X Cards of Opponents Deck.

Parmenas
4/6 Blue/Gold Hero
Acts 6:5, Deacon, Martyr
May band to a Deacon. Negate Protect Abilities. Site Access to NT Sites. If Discarded, Search Discard Pile for a NT Good Enhancement and Activate it's effect. Cannot be Interrupted.

Nicolas of Antioch
5/5 Blue Hero
Acts 6:5, Deacon
May band to a Deacon to Search Deck for a Conversion Enhancement. If Opponent does not have a Lost Soul, Holder may Retreat to Search Opponents Deck for a Lost Soul and play it. Cannot be Prevented.

What do u think?

Bravo. I just dont understand philip the evangalists ability completely. why would you want to place a NT b lue good enhencement beneath deck?

Alright, First off, there really isnt anything for Blue, so I dont understand what u mean.
Also Revelation kinda denotes Martyrs to be Gold or White. And I like Gold.

For Stephen, I think I'll change Stephen to "... Or convert an Evil Character to a Gold Hero"

Phillip, I forgot to put Search Discard pile for an NT Blue Enhancement of */2 or less.

For Timon I'll change it to Draw 1.

Nicanor: Not exactly, first off, it's set to allow ur Opponent to draw If he's not the first in Battle, and second it requires Heroes in Ur Discard Pile - all Removed Characters. So there's a possiblity that if u use healing cards or HT that u won't draw much if any.

As for Parmenas, I'll change it to an NT Good Enhacement.

Is this good then?

Well I'm not sure what Claudia does, but the problem w/ that is no place in the Bible are any of them mentioned beyond Stephen and Phillip. So there is no idea of how u could do that.
Besides this is kinda ment to counter 'endless Evil Banding Chains' and plus Warriors already do this.

Claudia can band to any N.T. Male hero. Yeah, I guess I wasn't sure if they were mentioned together at all but the thing is, is that Warrior-Class heroes only band and negate. These guys together would band, draw, Negate curses, put cards beneath deck, be immune to heretics (which won't do much because they usually don't hurt you they just protect other things. Maybe he should ignore heretics), protect from capture, search for conversion enhancements, and so on and so forth. But I guess they'd need an interrupt besides Abes Servant otherwise it would all be negated except banding and Parmenas but I'm sure that will happen in the near future.

The (max 2) on Phillip is superfluous.  In order to use the draw, there needs to be at least two deacons in play.  You can just make it a D2.

Any other ideas for the Deacons?

Did anybody think of a NT Teal theme?

Teal has got to be the least played brigade and it is practically never played alone. Maybe making them all teal and creating a new line of enhancements for them could be the answer. Most brigades have a OT and a NT theme (or at least a few cards and characters for both) (granted teal does have 2 NT characters but both are still priests)   

@Browarod Well, their only mentioned once...
Except for Stephen and Phillip

Teal is a theme-specific brigade. It was designed to house the Priests, and as such does not need a different N.T. and O.T. theme. Just as Orange is Demons whether they be O.T. or N.T. and Silver is Angels. That makes it mostly an O.T. Brigade by default, since there are only a smattering of good priests in the N.T.

As for making Martyrs gold v. red, gold already has an N.T. theme, red does not. People who are killed for the faith are known traditionally as "Red Martyrs," as opposed to White Martyrs who are not killed for their faith. Christ is described as a Mighty Warrior for his death on the cross, so there is crossover with the thematic elements.

You mentioned that you had a reason for Martyrs to be Gold or White. I'd like to hear that reason, since everything I see points to red.

Know that if you continue to double-post on this board from this point on, your second post will be deleted.

Plz note that on my iPod when I try to modify a post it doesn't allow me to easily. Not sure why.

So use a normal computer like everyone else? lol

I again state my support for Martyrs being red rather than gold or white. Gold and white both already have firmly entrenched NT themes (one of which is top tier), and Pol's statement about red martyrs seems to make it fit red even more.

It's actually Luke Heroes, and there's a pretty good number.

I thought it was Samaritians, because about half of the Cards were for Samaritians.

Well, when Im on my iPod (and my Mac) whenever I have to scroll to edit on here, it bounces back to the top. So I try to edit as little on possible.

As for the verses, here are the ones that I look at,
"Then a white robe was given to each of them; and it was said to them that they should rest a little while longer, until both the number of their fellow servants and their brethren, who would be killed as they were, was completed." (Revelation 6:11 NKJV)

And,
"And I said to him, “Sir, you know.” So he said to me, “These are the ones who come out of the great tribulation, and washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. "(Revelation 7:14 NKJV)

My main verse for them being Gold:
"And I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was committed to them. Then I sawthe souls of those who had been beheaded for their witness to Jesus and for the word of God, who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received his mark on their foreheads or on their hands. And they lived and reigned with Christ for a thousand years." (Revelation 20:4 NKJV)

And I thought I remembered a couple verses that mentioned a reward for being a martyr. Which if u are martyred or persecuted it probably means ur doing it right.