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I like both of them, but how many animals are there really in redemption? Maybe 6 at most?

This would be a nice Oak counter.

The second part isn't that great, but it could be handy to get captured heroes back, or make SWS a little less annoying.

Perhaps just return all cards to owners' territories? That way TAS would flip and become a LS for the opponent, in addition to doing all the other stuff you'd want it to do. Perhaps include a (except placed Enhancements) so stuff like IoJ doesn't get messy.

Quote from: browarod on February 21, 2012, 06:06:26 PM

"Animal Redeemed" just lets you rescue the captured animal

If I were a member of the ASPCA I would + 1 that. 

You know...I've always liked the idea of Phillys, but never had a chance to play them (not had the requisite...and sometimes expensive...cards to do so ), but it saddens me now that I realize that whatever is done to stop the meta involving Oak will just serve to weaken them more    Hezzy and Nazzy already, and they can't catch a break cause of that 

Also, I think an interesting side-effect of this type of interrupt-and-return ability would be a weakening of the hopper.  Sure, you can speed through your deck faster with it in and maybe prevent soul lock, but if your opponent ran this card (since they were countering meta), your hopper might come back to visit

Last point on the verse: I love the reference you found for it.  While it specifically says that you shouldn't exchange good-for-bad, bad-for-good, it implies not to exchange at all.  Good find!

On the second card...I'm not very comfortable with redeeming an animal as a soul.  God did not give animals souls to be rescued like that of man, and he does not pursue them for redemption like man.

Also, the verse references redeeming as in a person who gave the animal wanting it back, in which case it could be redeemed for its value plus an additional 20% tax, essentially.  While the animal is holy, the redemption is monetary, not spiritual.