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Thought of 2 versions. I think the first is better, but I find the second a little more creative.

Thomas' Doubt
Now Thomas (called Didymus), one of the Twelve, was not with the disciples when Jesus came. So the other disciples told him, "We have seen the Lord!"
But he said to them, "Unless I see the nail marks in his hands and put my finger where the nails were, and put my hand into his side, I will not believe it."

[Purple Good Enhancement | -/- | John 20:24-25]
Set a disciple aside for 2 turns (or 0 turns if Son of God has been played this game). On return, hero is protected from withdraw and return to hand abilities.


-Evil Versions-
Version A:
[Orange Evil Enhancement | 3/2 | John 20:24-25]
Discard a hero (or 2 disciples). Cannot be negated if Son of God has not been played this game.

Version B:
[Orange Evil Enhancement | -/- | TC | John 20:24-25]
Search deck or discard pile for Doubt and place it on a disciple(hero). Hero can't enter battle while it remains.

This shouldn't be an evil card. Thomas gets an unnecessary bad rap.

Quote from: Minister Polarius on September 20, 2010, 12:53:50 PM

This shouldn't be an evil card. Thomas gets an unnecessary bad rap.

I agree. If your best friends came and told you that they saw another friend of yours who died had come back to life, what would your reaction be? I know I would be skeptical, to say the least. The other Disciples had the benefit of seeing to believe, Thomas did not.

Alright alright, I just thought it would be cool to make Doubt a little more useful

EDIT: Added a GOOD version of the card. I'm meh about the ability so suggestions would be nice.

so, Doubt is evil (and dominant), but if Thomas Doubts it's a good thing? I agree that Thomas gets a bad rap, but he's a hero. Doubt isn't a good thing.

so, Doubt is evil (and dominant), but if Thomas Doubts it's a good thing? I agree that Thomas gets a bad rap, but he's a hero. Doubt isn't a good thing.

Agreed. His doubt was a bad thing, He does get a REALLY bad rap but his doubt wasn't good.

Not that ethical debates of doubt aren't wonderful and stimulating (especially as I'm doing a school assignment on ethics right now), I really just want comments on the card idea, lol.

Setting aside for zero turns is wut? And Herods are one of the few thinks keeping Disciples in check now, so protection from return=bad.

Protection from withdraw/return made sense with the situation (having seen Jesus in person, Thomas no longer was dissuaded in faith). As for the 0 turns, I wasn't sure how else to word it.

Thomas*, but a Bartholomew protected from Withdraw and Return to Hand with HT out is invincible.

Fixed. And, ugh, which HT are you referring to? (there are far too many in this game >_>)

If his doubt was a bad thing, it would have been cast as a bad thing in the Bible. His was a doubting of incredulity, not faithlessness.

Really? I thought Jesus rebuked him? I'll have to go read that chapter again...

i definitely see this as an evil card

sure the others saw, but the fact is he didn't believe....
this card should have a similar ability to two possessed by demons in my opinion

[Orange Evil Enhancement | -/- | TC | John 20:24-25]
Set aside a disciple until Son of God is played or until another disciple makes a successful rescue attempt.

The new card "My Lord and My God" is after Thomas saw Jesus, so technically, there is a card from the same book and is like few verse beneath, because after Thomas said those words, Jesus appear to him and have him touch the wounds on his body. Thank you.

ML.

So?

So, I think it is pointless to make another card that already have one similar to it.

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