Author Topic: Had to chuckle at myself... (Read 5823 times)

crustpope · « **Reply #25 on:** March 07, 2011, 01:43:08 PM »

Quote from: SomeKittens on March 07, 2011, 01:26:08 PM

Thad is pretty broken. Of those three, I would say he's the most. I thought Boat was bad, but then I figured out I could only put guys in there in Prep. Boat + Pentecost+ WoS is entertaining, but not OP'd

No, boat = unlimited, unnegatable site access since nothing can touch good set aside fortresses except ANB yet. it is the unlimited adn unnegatable site access that I have a problem with because it destroys site lock decks and there is absolutely no real counter.

what is HT and manny?

herods temple? or harvest time? lol

Is manny manaseh, because That is pretty beastly as well. thoguh not quite broken since he is multicolor. you can only have one in type II

Gabe · « **Reply #26 on:** March 07, 2011, 01:52:07 PM »

CP would have been fine with either one of the two abilities it was given. With both of them it's really strong. Probably a little too strong.

I used to think that the new Sites were OP and therefore we would need to make a bunch of counters. After playing with, and against them this year I'm convinced that the they are one of the best things to happen to the game in recent history. They hurt many of the most common themes people have used for the past few years. Suddenly people have to approach their deck building differently. You can't rely on pre-block ignore, territory destruction, ANB, a timely Mayhem, or even stealing all our opponent's Sites. Change isn't easy, but it's good.

megamanlan · « **Reply #27 on:** March 07, 2011, 03:02:10 PM »

When they make a site that would negate Site access, I'll take it. Besides, I run site-lock, and I hold a lot of nasty stuff for any Hero w/ access. U just gotta know how to play it right. If they make a EC that ignores some kind of character, that would be an OP. Also I feel like there's been a Protect obsession. Eather way, I can still get rid of Thaddeus and Rain to Dust can stop Matt and Boat on the first part, and Darius' Decree stops Boat all together. *sigh* If only Cov. W/ Abraham would negate Hero setaside as well...

Rawrlolsauce! · « **Reply #28 on:** March 07, 2011, 11:45:08 PM »

I've started to love the sites too. Except Chorazin, nobody plays with it beings it isn't very good

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Thaddeus is by far the most broken. I've been trying everything to stop him and the most success as come from Pretension, which is somewhat sad. Fishing Boat is overrated imo: I've never gotten to draw as much as I wanted and I'd still say it is inferior to CP + 1 or two access sites. Herod's Temple is amazing too, and needed imo.

Isildur · « **Reply #29 on:** March 07, 2011, 11:49:34 PM »

Thad isnt broken vs pale green :p Silly Women ftw

Warrior_Monk · « **Reply #30 on:** March 07, 2011, 11:58:17 PM »

Herod's Temple is lame because of it's infinite usage.

I play Haman's Plot and rip it.
Herod's Temple. Son.
Christian Martyr.
Herod's Temple. Son.
Magic Charms.
That's not a discard. Noob.

megamanlan · « **Reply #31 on:** March 08, 2011, 12:37:04 AM »

I tossed Peter's Curse on it all my problems were solved!

megamanlan · « **Reply #32 on:** March 08, 2011, 12:40:42 AM »

I suggested a Dominant that could discard a Site or Fortress in play or Set-aside area, It's makes Chamber and Boat not as irritating, plus u can get rid of irritating sites as well.

Quote from: Rawrlolsauce! on March 07, 2011, 11:45:08 PM

I've started to love the sites too. Except Chorazin, nobody plays with it beings it isn't very good .

Thaddeus is by far the most broken. I've been trying everything to stop him and the most success as come from Pretension, which is somewhat sad. Fishing Boat is overrated imo: I've never gotten to draw as much as I wanted and I'd still say it is inferior to CP + 1 or two access sites. Herod's Temple is amazing too, and needed imo.

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #33 on:** March 08, 2011, 02:33:47 AM »

I agree with what Gabe said about the Sites. They're not OP, people are just saying they're OP so they can get a lot of counters next set and go back to playing Speed/TGT/Z-Temple instead of changing with the meta. And then the same people that say the Sites are OP complain about Fishing Boat in the same breath

Are you pro-site or anti-site, make up your minds!

The Guardian · « **Reply #34 on:** March 08, 2011, 02:47:36 AM »

Once each theme/brigade has a reliable way to deal with CP-protected Sites, I think we'll have the best balance. The example I always use is Zebulun. Zebulun decks can still work because you have room for a Teal Hero and Benedictus. Meanwhile, an actual Genesis-themed deck that includes Zebulun probably doesn't have the card slots to add in Benedictus. So while the Sites helped make balanced decks competitive again, many themes are not tournament worthy right now because they have no way to deal with the Sites.

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #35 on:** March 08, 2011, 03:12:07 AM »

I've been having huge success with Genesis. True Genesis, all Blue. If your Brigade of choice can't deal with CP, don't try to rely on PBI or territory destruction. Really, at least in T1, idk about T2, all cards except Thadeus are harmoniously balanced. If a brigade lacks a way to counter something, it has a way to make it irrelevant, in every single case.

Warrior_Monk · « **Reply #36 on:** March 08, 2011, 09:45:14 AM »

IMO, CP should protect all other N.T. sites. Protecting itself is a bit much. While occupied would have worked too...

crustpope · « **Reply #37 on:** March 08, 2011, 12:52:04 PM »

Quote from: Ring Wraith on March 08, 2011, 09:45:14 AM

IMO, CP should protect all other N.T. sites. Protecting itself is a bit much. While occupied would have worked too...

Yeah, I'd like to say that these sites only work when occupied. That way they are fulfilling their intended purpose. Making them stand alone mini fortresses is, IMO, a corruption of their purpose.

SomeKittens · « **Reply #38 on:** March 08, 2011, 12:54:03 PM »

Didn't the rules originally state that site's abilities only worked when occupied?

RTSmaniac · « **Reply #39 on:** March 08, 2011, 01:14:12 PM »

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Meanwhile, an actual Genesis-themed deck that includes Zebulun probably doesn't have the card slots to add in Benedictus.

Joseph, Enoch, Isaac
Consider the Lillies
Benedictus

Warrior_Monk · « **Reply #40 on:** March 08, 2011, 02:32:05 PM »

Watchful Servant is 10x better than Zebby, and works well with TGT.

megamanlan · « **Reply #41 on:** March 08, 2011, 06:55:46 PM »

Quote from: SomeKittens on March 08, 2011, 12:54:03 PM

Didn't the rules originally state that site's abilities only worked when occupied?

I don't see that in my rulebooks... And then that gives the question, Why does Purgamum say 'When this site is occupied' So I think it doesn't. Maybe they should make a Hero that Negates protect Abilites on Sites, that would solve everyone's complaints on CP... I don't mind it in my sitelock deck... Guess why?

Warrior_Monk · « **Reply #42 on:** March 09, 2011, 12:37:29 AM »

The rules used to be that sites had to be occupied, but is no longer, hence why some say "while occupied"

megamanlan · « **Reply #43 on:** March 12, 2011, 11:25:09 PM »

Okay. I started by getting the E/F Deck so I wouldnt have known.

RTSmaniac · « **Reply #44 on:** March 15, 2011, 09:36:16 PM »

Quote from: Ring Wraith on March 08, 2011, 02:32:05 PM

Watchful Servant is 10x better than Zebby, and works well with TGT.

unless your opponent is playing a 100 card deck...

SomeKittens · « **Reply #45 on:** March 15, 2011, 09:45:35 PM »

How often does that happen (outside of RTS)

Isildur · « **Reply #46 on:** March 15, 2011, 10:11:20 PM »

alot

megamanlan · « **Reply #47 on:** March 17, 2011, 03:47:00 AM »

Yep, a kid at the touney I go to plays the Max u can have in type 1.

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