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Title: Greek and Maccabean Cards *with pics*
Post by: drb1200 on August 05, 2009, 12:01:46 PM

CARD NAME: Greek Scholars (http://berryfamilyblog.webs.com/greekscholars_d.jpg)
CARD TYPE: Evil Character
CLASS:
IDENTIFIERS: Generic, Male Greek
STATS:  2/5
BRIGADE COLOR: Maroon
SPECIAL ABILITY: If Opponent has a N.T. Hero in battle, you may discard up to 2 cards in your hand. For every card discarded, you may place one Lost Soul in a Land of Bondage on top of its owners deck.
SCRIPTURE: 1 Corinthians 1:20

CARD NAME: Jason (http://berryfamilyblog.webs.com/jason_d.jpg)
CARD TYPE: Evil Character
CLASS: Warrior
IDENTIFIERS: O.T. Greek High Priest
STATS: 7/7
BRIGADE COLOR: Maroon
SPECIAL ABILITY: Interrupt all Fortresses and band into battle all Greeks in your hand and territory.
SCRIPTURE: 2 Maccabees 4:7

CARD NAME: Greece (http://berryfamilyblog.webs.com/greece_d.jpg)
CARD TYPE: Evil Fortress
CLASS:
IDENTIFIERS: Holds any number of Greek Enhancements
STATS:
BRIGADE COLOR:
SPECIAL ABILITY: Once per turn, you may place a greek Enhancement in this Fortress face-down. During battle, you may play enhancements from here as if from your hand.
SCRIPTURE: Zechariah 9:13

CARD NAME: Sacrifice to Hercules (http://berryfamilyblog.webs.com/sacrificetohercules_d.jpg)
CARD TYPE: Evil Enhancement
CLASS: Territory
IDENTIFIERS: O.T. Depicts an Idol
STATS: 2/2
BRIGADE COLOR: Maroon/Black
SPECIAL ABILITY: You may negate and discard an active Artifact in Opponent's territory.
SCRIPTURE: 2 Maccabees 4:19

CARD NAME: Death of Lysimachus (http://berryfamilyblog.webs.com/deathoflysimachus_d.jpg)
CARD TYPE: Evil Enhancement
CLASS: Territory
IDENTIFIERS: O.T.
STATS:
BRIGADE COLOR: Maroon
SPECIAL ABILITY: You may place an Evil Character in your territory on top of your deck to discard a Hero in play.
SCRIPTURE: 2 Maccabees 4:41

Comments would be appreciated!! (Maccabees cards will be added soon)

Title: Re: Mi Cards
Post by: drb1200 on August 05, 2009, 12:02:47 PM

(Post reserved for Maccabees cards)

Title: Re: Mi Cards
Post by: TimMierz on August 05, 2009, 12:45:01 PM

They're all pretty good, but Greek Scholars is great. By the way, Greeks currently reside in the Black Brigade, no reason to make a whole new brigade for them.

Title: Re: Mi Cards
Post by: Alex_Olijar on August 05, 2009, 12:46:04 PM

Jason has broken potenial since it has no limit or cost.

Title: Re: Mi Cards
Post by: TimMierz on August 05, 2009, 12:48:03 PM

It is forced though, there's no "may". So if you block with Jason, he's immediately bringing in all your Greek Philosophers etc. to make sure you have no initiative.

Title: Re: Mi Cards
Post by: Master KChief on August 05, 2009, 12:55:46 PM

isnt sacrifice to hercules basically a don...? :-\

Title: Re: Mi Cards
Post by: Professoralstad on August 05, 2009, 01:21:38 PM

Quote from: Master KChief on August 05, 2009, 12:55:46 PM

isnt sacrifice to hercules basically a don...? :-\

Essentially, except that you have to have a Maroon or Black guy in your territory, but you can discard Lampstand (or any other artifact when Lampstand is up). I think it should have some sort of cost. Here's my proposal:


CARD NAME: Sacrifice to Hercules
CARD TYPE: Evil Enhancement
CLASS: Territory
IDENTIFIERS: O.T. Depicts an Idol
STATS: 2/2
BRIGADE COLOR: Maroon/Black
SPECIAL ABILITY: If used by a Greek, you may remove this card and an evil card from hand or territory from the game to negate and discard an active Artifact.
SCRIPTURE: 2 Maccabees 4:19

That way it acts more like a sacrifice (you removing an evil card) and it can only be used when someone who would sacrifice to Hercules (a Greek) is in your territory. The removal part would prevent recursion, since it is already quite powerful.

Title: Re: Greek and Maccabean Cards
Post by: Master KChief on August 05, 2009, 01:39:58 PM

nice fix. i like it :)

Title: Re: Greek and Maccabean Cards
Post by: drb1200 on August 05, 2009, 02:44:41 PM

Updated with pics.

Quote from: Professoralstad on August 05, 2009, 01:21:38 PM

Quote from: Master KChief on August 05, 2009, 12:55:46 PM

isnt sacrifice to hercules basically a don...? :-\

Essentially, except that you have to have a Maroon or Black guy in your territory, but you can discard Lampstand (or any other artifact when Lampstand is up). I think it should have some sort of cost. Here's my proposal:


CARD NAME: Sacrifice to Hercules
CARD TYPE: Evil Enhancement
CLASS: Territory
IDENTIFIERS: O.T. Depicts an Idol
STATS: 2/2
BRIGADE COLOR: Maroon/Black
SPECIAL ABILITY: If used by a Greek, you may remove this card and an evil card from hand or territory from the game to negate and discard an active Artifact.
SCRIPTURE: 2 Maccabees 4:19

That way it acts more like a sacrifice (you removing an evil card) and it can only be used when someone who would sacrifice to Hercules (a Greek) is in your territory. The removal part would prevent recursion, since it is already quite powerful.

I like it. Nice idea :)

Title: Re: Greek and Maccabean Cards
Post by: TimMierz on August 05, 2009, 02:55:05 PM

Nice job on the card design as well. I can make some tiny nitpicks, but on the whole they look very nice.

Title: Re: Greek and Maccabean Cards
Post by: drb1200 on August 05, 2009, 02:55:51 PM

Quote from: TimMierz on August 05, 2009, 02:55:05 PM

Nice job on the card design as well. I can make some tiny nitpicks, but on the whole they look very nice.

I'd love to hear them. I am a perfectionist and would like to improve my cards. :)

Title: Re: Greek and Maccabean Cards
Post by: TimMierz on August 05, 2009, 03:05:29 PM

You asked for it...

Identifiers: Unless they changed something in TP (I haven't seen cards since Rock of Ages), they should be in all caps and comma-separated ("O.T., DEPICTS AN IDOL")
Icon size: Your territory and warrior class icons look a little small, as does the fortress icon on Greece
Color: The "maroon" brigade looks just like a darker brown. If you are keeping them as maroon brigade, make them purpler.
Bi-color: Your color split isn't quite halfway down the icon box on Sacrifice to Hercules.
Capitalization & grammar: The words "opponent" and "enhancement" are typically not capitalized on cards anymore. Also, you forgot the apostrophe in "opponent's" in Sacrifice to Hercules.

Like I said, tiny nitpicks.

Title: Re: Greek and Maccabean Cards
Post by: drb1200 on August 05, 2009, 03:10:17 PM

Quote from: TimMierz

Identifiers: Unless they changed something in TP (I haven't seen cards since Rock of Ages), they should be in all caps

Ya they changed it in TexP

(https://www.cactusforums.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcactusgamedesign.com%2FCenturi.jpg&hash=5223010b9f1ebced95bc90b984a52e110eb8a0d7)

Color: The "maroon" brigade looks just like a darker brown. If you are keeping them as maroon brigade, make them purpler

Ok, will do.

And thanks for the constructive critisicm. :)

Title: Re: Greek and Maccabean Cards
Post by: LukeSnyder on August 05, 2009, 04:44:50 PM

Quote from: TimMierz on August 05, 2009, 03:05:29 PM

Color: The "maroon" brigade looks just like a darker brown. If you are keeping them as maroon brigade, make them purpler.

I agree that it should be a different color because its too close to brown, but the color he picked is actually very close to maroon. Maroon is a brown, but can also be classified as dark red. Its RGB (128, 0, 0)

drb, I would try rich maroon, RGB (176, 48, 96) That should be far enough away from the color used for brown brigade. The cards look awesome, by the way. I especially like Greek Scholars.

Title: Re: Greek and Maccabean Cards *with pics*
Post by: TimMierz on August 05, 2009, 05:06:07 PM

Yeah, I figured it was "Crayola" maroon rather than real brown maroon, since I think that's what everyone thinks when they hear it (at least I do).

Title: Re: Greek and Maccabean Cards *with pics*
Post by: Tsavong Lah on August 05, 2009, 05:06:46 PM

I love Greek Scholars, but Sacrifice to Hercules is just a limited Lying Unto God (only black/maroon as opposed to multi). I like the suggestion made to limit the card, but if you want it to be used at all over LuG it should have another benefit aside from discarding artifacts.

Title: Re: Greek and Maccabean Cards *with pics*
Post by: TimMierz on August 05, 2009, 05:07:33 PM

Quote from: Tsavong Lah on August 05, 2009, 05:06:46 PM

I love Greek Scholars, but Sacrifice to Hercules is just a limited Lying Unto God (only black/maroon as opposed to multi). I like the suggestion made to limit the card, but if you want it to be used at all over LuG it should have another benefit aside from discarding artifacts.

It does - it's territory class.

Title: Re: Greek and Maccabean Cards *with pics*
Post by: Tsavong Lah on August 05, 2009, 05:12:40 PM

 :doh:

I guess I had to have been missing something. :P

Title: Re: Greek and Maccabean Cards *with pics*
Post by: Minister Polarius on August 05, 2009, 06:30:22 PM

I like them muchly, but make them Black. There doesn't need to be a whole new Brigade for Greeks.

Title: Re: Greek and Maccabean Cards *with pics*
Post by: Alex_Olijar on August 05, 2009, 06:35:40 PM

They definatley look nice. Good Work.

Title: Re: Greek and Maccabean Cards *with pics*
Post by: Colin Michael on August 05, 2009, 07:10:18 PM

Why would Greek scholars and Jason necessarily have to be evil?

Title: Re: Greek and Maccabean Cards *with pics*
Post by: Colin Michael on August 05, 2009, 07:10:18 PM

Okay, never mind, I was thinking of the Jason from mythology.