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browarod

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Generic Hero Booster
« on: December 15, 2010, 04:01:12 PM »
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So there was the Potter's Field contest, and Pol said that a generic heroes theme would be cool, and then in the "end big decks in T1" thread someone said generic heroes were lacking, so here's some ideas as well as a few other somewhat related ideas I had for the contest. I'll probably add more generic support stuff eventually.

Potter's Field [Reprint]
[Fortress | Plays to set-aside, Holds any number of generic heroes |Matthew 27:7]
Protect generic heroes in your territory from capture, conversion, and removal from the game. When your generic hero is discarded, you may place it here instead.

Armorbearer [Reprint]
[Red Hero | 6/6 | WC, Generic, Male, Fought in an earthly battle | I Samuel 14:7]
May band to a warrior-class hero, except Armorbearer, to make this hero immune to generic evil characters this battle.

Midwives [Reprint]
[Green Hero | 7/6 | Generic, Female, Egyptian | Exodus 1:17]
Return a human generic hero from your discard pile or Potter's Field to owner's territory. Immune to Egyptian evil characters.

Tribal Elder [Reprint]
[Green Hero | 6/5 | Generic, Male | Exodus 12:21]
May band to a generic hero, except Tribal Elder, to draw 1. Cannot be interrupted.

Prophecy Fulfilled
[Green/Teal GE | TC | -/- | Matthew 27:9]
Discard a Thirty Pieces of Silver artifact from your hand or artifact pile to search deck for Potter's Field and put it in play. If you do, reveal an opponent's hand and discard a revealed good dominant. Cannot be interrupted.

Blood Money
[Black/Grey EE | 2/4 | Matthew 27:6]
If used by a Pharisee or Sadducee, discard a crimson evil character, draw 1, and capture a hero. Cannot be negated if a Thirty Pieces of Silver artifact is active.

Field of Blood
[Multi EE | 1/3 | Matthew 27:8]
Interrupt the battle and convert a hero in a Potter's Field fortress to a black/gray evil character until end of battle. Band that character into battle. If character survives or is discarded from battle, return to Potter's Field after battle. Cannot be prevented by an evil card.

The Price
[Crimson EE | TC | -/- | Matthew 27:9]
Place on your active Thirty Pieces of Silver artifact: Son of God cannot be played and no player may search a discard pile. If Thirty Pieces of Silver is deactivated, return this card to hand. Discard this card if Son of God and/or Angel of the Lord are in your discard pile.
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Re: Generic Hero Booster
« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2010, 04:10:51 PM »
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Send Back the Prisoners
[Multi GE | -/- | TC | 2 Chronicles 28:14]
If used by a generic hero, return up to 3 captured generic heroes to owner's territory.

I am Redemption / Covenant of Palestine are much easier ways to get captured heroes back.

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Re: Generic Hero Booster
« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2010, 04:44:08 PM »
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Potter's Field [Reprint]
[Fortress | Plays to set-aside, Holds any number of generic heroes |Matthew 27:7]
Protect generic heroes in your territory from conversion and removal from the game. When your generic hero is discarded, you may place it here instead.
<3, although I'd also have it protect from Capture.

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Armorbearer [Reprint]
[Green/Gold Hero | 6/6 | Generic, Male, Fought in an earthly battle | I Samuel 14:7]
May band to a generic hero, except Armorbearer, to make this hero immune to generic evil characters this battle.
Should be Red, Warrior-Class, and band to a Warrior-Class Hero.
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Send Back the Prisoners
[Multi GE | -/- | TC | 2 Chronicles 28:14]
If used by a generic hero, return up to 3 captured generic heroes to owner's territory.
Almost entirely redundant with many other cards. And not as good.

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Midwives [Reprint]
[Green Hero | 7/6 | Generic, Female, Egyptian | Exodus 1:17]
Return a male generic hero from your discard pile or Potter's Field to owner's territory. Immune to Egyptian evil characters.
Good, I'd make it human though.

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Tribal Elder [Reprint]
[Blue/Gold Hero | 6/5 | Generic, Male | Exodus 12:21]
May band to a generic hero, except Tribal Elder, to draw 1. Cannot be interrupted.
Like. Should be Green, though.
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Prophecy Fulfilled
[Green/Teal GE | TC | -/- | Matthew 27:9]
Discard a Thirty Pieces of Silver artifact from your hand or artifact pile to search deck for Potter's Field and put it in play. Cannot be interrupted.
NU. Make it also reveal an opponent's hand and Discard a Good Dominant.

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Blood Money
[Black/Grey EE | 2/4 | Matthew 27:6]
If used by a Pharisee or Sadducee, discard a crimson evil character, draw 1, and capture a hero. Cannot be negated if a Thirty Pieces of Silver artifact is active, and does not count as a use of that artifact.
Very, very good! I don't get why it would be a use of 30 Pieces, though.

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Field of Blood
[Multi EE | 1/3 | Matthew 27:8]
Interrupt the battle and convert a hero in a Potter's Field fortress to a black/gray evil character until end of battle. Band that character into battle. If character survives or is discarded from battle, return to Potter's Field after battle. Cannot be prevented by an evil card.
Doesn't work. Heroes in Potter's Field are Generic and therefore Protected from Conversion.
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The Price
[Crimson EE | TC | -/- | Matthew 27:9]
Place on your active Thirty Pieces of Silver: Son of God cannot be played. If Thirty Pieces of Silver is deactivated, return this card to hand. Discard this card if Son of God and/or Angel of the Lord are in your discard pile.
Good, not great.
I am not talking about T2 unless I am explicitly talking about T2. Also Mayhem is fine now somehow!

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Re: Generic Hero Booster
« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2010, 08:49:46 PM »
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The Armorbearer should band to people who fought in an earthly battle still.
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Re: Generic Hero Booster
« Reply #4 on: December 16, 2010, 02:55:43 PM »
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Potter's Field [Reprint]
[Fortress | Plays to set-aside, Holds any number of generic heroes |Matthew 27:7]
Protect generic heroes in your territory from conversion and removal from the game. When your generic hero is discarded, you may place it here instead.
<3, although I'd also have it protect from Capture.

Added.

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Armorbearer [Reprint]
[Green/Gold Hero | 6/6 | Generic, Male, Fought in an earthly battle | I Samuel 14:7]
May band to a generic hero, except Armorbearer, to make this hero immune to generic evil characters this battle.
Should be Red, Warrior-Class, and band to a Warrior-Class Hero.

Updated.

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Send Back the Prisoners
[Multi GE | -/- | TC | 2 Chronicles 28:14]
If used by a generic hero, return up to 3 captured generic heroes to owner's territory.
Almost entirely redundant with many other cards. And not as good.

Removed

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Midwives [Reprint]
[Green Hero | 7/6 | Generic, Female, Egyptian | Exodus 1:17]
Return a male generic hero from your discard pile or Potter's Field to owner's territory. Immune to Egyptian evil characters.
Good, I'd make it human though.

Updated

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Tribal Elder [Reprint]
[Blue/Gold Hero | 6/5 | Generic, Male | Exodus 12:21]
May band to a generic hero, except Tribal Elder, to draw 1. Cannot be interrupted.
Like. Should be Green, though.

Just green, or green and either gold or blue?

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Prophecy Fulfilled
[Green/Teal GE | TC | -/- | Matthew 27:9]
Discard a Thirty Pieces of Silver artifact from your hand or artifact pile to search deck for Potter's Field and put it in play. Cannot be interrupted.
NU. Make it also reveal an opponent's hand and Discard a Good Dominant.

I like the overall idea, but should a good card really be discarding a good dominant?

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Blood Money
[Black/Grey EE | 2/4 | Matthew 27:6]
If used by a Pharisee or Sadducee, discard a crimson evil character, draw 1, and capture a hero. Cannot be negated if a Thirty Pieces of Silver artifact is active, and does not count as a use of that artifact.
Very, very good! I don't get why it would be a use of 30 Pieces, though.

I had that in there because I couldn't remember the ruling on artifacts with uses (if it counts as a use even if you get rid of the hero by other means). If it's not necessary I can remove that part.

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Field of Blood
[Multi EE | 1/3 | Matthew 27:8]
Interrupt the battle and convert a hero in a Potter's Field fortress to a black/gray evil character until end of battle. Band that character into battle. If character survives or is discarded from battle, return to Potter's Field after battle. Cannot be prevented by an evil card.
Doesn't work. Heroes in Potter's Field are Generic and therefore Protected from Conversion.

I made this before I reworked Potter's Field to its current format. I'll update this and change it around a little.

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The Price
[Crimson EE | TC | -/- | Matthew 27:9]
Place on your active Thirty Pieces of Silver: Son of God cannot be played. If Thirty Pieces of Silver is deactivated, return this card to hand. Discard this card if Son of God and/or Angel of the Lord are in your discard pile.
Good, not great.

Any suggestions for improvement
Comments in bold above.

Thanks for all the other comments, too!

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Re: Generic Hero Booster
« Reply #5 on: December 16, 2010, 05:03:23 PM »
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Keep tribal elder single brigade. The main reason I mentioned generics in the 100 deck thread was so that you could use duplicates.  :P

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Re: Generic Hero Booster
« Reply #6 on: December 17, 2010, 02:45:19 AM »
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Just Green, Green seems to be the Exodus Brigade.

The (good) Prophecy is that Christ would be betrayed to be killed. Angel at the Tomb can get it back, so there's no real biblical error in having a good card about the fulfillment of prophecy Discard SoG.

Capturing a Hero will render it a Captured Hero by the end of battle, making it an ineligible target for 30 pieces so it wouldn't use it in any case.

Add "no player may search a Discard Pile." This will make Potter's Field more useful by comparison to Chariot of Fire.
I am not talking about T2 unless I am explicitly talking about T2. Also Mayhem is fine now somehow!

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Re: Generic Hero Booster
« Reply #7 on: December 17, 2010, 04:09:27 PM »
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Just Green, Green seems to be the Exodus Brigade.

The (good) Prophecy is that Christ would be betrayed to be killed. Angel at the Tomb can get it back, so there's no real biblical error in having a good card about the fulfillment of prophecy Discard SoG.

Capturing a Hero will render it a Captured Hero by the end of battle, making it an ineligible target for 30 pieces so it wouldn't use it in any case.

Add "no player may search a Discard Pile." This will make Potter's Field more useful by comparison to Chariot of Fire.
Green works for me.

Makes sense, added.

Ah, okay. Clarification removed.

I like it. Added.

Also, I remembered that Potter's Field only protects generics in your territory, so Field of Blood actually would be able to convert one that was there.

 


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