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He is definitely OP, but then again, so was David.

I really like him, and i don't think hes that overly OP.  yea hes good, but far from invincible.  he doesn't make his big numbers make him vulnerable to kill cards and his ability is fully negate-able.  i love him holding davids harp, it gets a good old card some more play and sets up a cool combo (david gets discarded, puts himself and davids harp on top of deck, but then you only get to draw 1 new card next turn so its balanced)  it would be interesting to see what kind of decks he would fit into, he would be good in sam decks, but could fit into almost any deck other that blue of NT themes.  to make him less powerful, maybe make him negate fortresses so that obadiahs cave, davids throne, and musicians chambers dont help him

Helps out Sam decks by allowing them to do another draw 2 off sam not to mention he is I Samuel so Sam can band to him. Would prefer if a card was made for each one like I believe Pol did

I don't like Pol's idea of printing four Davids, however, this David definitely needs to be stripped down. I would take out the ability to hold David's Harp and make him negate play abilities (without making him CBN [which is overpowered], AoCp abuse with HT would be ridiculous).

I'm not sure what is worse negate play abilities CBN or allowing for play-first combos after David is negated.  As noted in my above post, if you don't make David CBN there would still be easy ways to make AoCp playable on him. (Peter's curse, Tower of Thebez, provisions + FBTN character etc.)   

Edit: Wings of Music, I am trying to get away from that online tag, and I figure enough people know me in real life here that I can just use my real name.

Fair enough. 

Extremely OP. Any four-color David will by necessity be OP unless he's loaded up with CBN SA's that hurt him.

Not necessarily, especially since it would be perfectly possible to build a mini-theme around him. Reprint a few heroes that need to be reprinted (Bathsheba, King Saul, Jonathan, etc). My problem with printing David as four heroes is that David was not four people.

That's a rather flimsy reason. King Saul isn't two people and we have two of him.

The last King Saul was printed in Kings, which was a long time ago. At this point, when we've worked so hard to establish accurate abilities and identifiers, having four of one guy seems a bit of a detriment to that goal of organization and accuracy.

We already have a way to play AoCp pre-block with ET. If you want to go to the extra effort to negate David's restrict ability so you can use Hidden Treasures to play AoCp I don't find that OP.

Besides AoCp, the only other play first combo I really want us to avoid is Samson's Sacrifice. Nothing else I've seen is as devastating or as easy to pull off as those 2.

The two things that would scare me about printing this card without thorough testing are the restrict ability and the band ability. The restrict could potentially shut down an entire NT based defense. The band ability by itself isn't OP, but in combination with the other abilities and the FBTNb chain it's probably over the top.

I think holding David's Harp is a clever way to make use of a rarely played Artifact and help David survive battles (which he did in real life).  I borrowed the idea from someone else's post on this forum. Sorry that I don't remember who, but props to you. You know who you are.

Sepjazz - we never CBN part of an ability. It's the whole thing or not at all.

I like Pol's idea of 4 Davids, but I like one 4 color David better myself.

Pol, we've discussed this before and I think it comes to agreeing to disagree. I actually think the best way to do it is to have a Saul/Paul situation, where he starts as David, then after winning a battle, you can convert him to King David. Something like this (I didn't put much thought into the abilities):

David
Red/White 10/3 WC Hero
Search deck for Jonathan or a card mentioning David in the title or reference. You may add it to battle. When this character wins a battle, you may convert him to...

King David
Purple/White 10/10 WC Hero
Ignore evil royalty. Search deck or discard pile for a card referring to music and add to hand to draw 2.

We already have a way to play AoCp pre-block with ET. If you want to go to the extra effort to negate David's restrict ability so you can use Hidden Treasures to play AoCp I don't find that OP.

The problem isn't just AoCp, it's AoCp on top of everything he can play pre-block. AoCp is just kind of the icing on the cake in that sense, but I realize now that my original suggestion doesn't make any difference - his ability can still be negated. Even so, I don't think his restricting NT enhancements works on anything but a gameplay level. It's probably necessary, but at least with Daniel's restriction of NT enhancements, it sort of makes sense in an ironic way since Daniel is full of prophesying about the end times; David doesn't have quite that same reasoning behind it.

The two things that would scare me about printing this card without thorough testing are the restrict ability and the band ability. The restrict could potentially shut down an entire NT based defense. The band ability by itself isn't OP, but in combination with the other abilities and the FBTNb chain it's probably over the top.

Daniel does something pretty similar to this, but not quite as powerful. That said, not many evil NT enhancements are CBN, so it shouldn't be too different than Daniel's ability, especially since Daniel also negates evil characters, which shuts down a NT defense way more than David's ability would. Maybe Pharisees, but that sort of makes sense.

Sepjazz - we never CBN part of an ability. It's the whole thing or not at all.

Not true. There's at least one enhancement with part of the ability CBN and the rest of it can be negated. The rules currently allow for it, and I see no reason not to have it, especially since cards like Joseph have it indirectly with the recent rule change there.

I think that if they sere to make this card they would have to put it in a set with OP EC's, or els you would just put this card in your deck and win.

Not true at all. The card is overpowered, yes, but nothing that can't be handled easily. Even just a CM takes him out. It's the banding that's the problem, for the most part.

there is no reason to not make only part of an ability CBN, joseph is like that, joshua the HP is like that.  what would we really be worried about david playing with HT?  spiritual warfare, AoCp, peace treaty, and what else?

Ha ha just realized i put WC brigade instead of just WC. lol