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I will never support or agree with any decision that makes drought worse, which the SoG/NJ ruling most definitely did.
The only reason why you would "feel" like there is a problem more now would be if your decks were consistently drawing SoG/NJ before your opponent's decks were.
Hopefully it makes sense, and you're still welcome to disagree, but this is where I stand.
I'm fine with agreeing to disagree.
Lost Soul drought is far and away the worst thing for Redemption (and the only thing that you can't hard counter without changes to game rules) so I will never support or agree with any decision that makes drought worse, which the SoG/NJ ruling most definitely did.
so if there is a drout and the player who would win dosnt want to becuse its a easy win and the player whos going to lose both want to restart can they
Quote from: Prof Underwood on November 25, 2013, 01:58:27 PMI disagree with this. Before the rule change, your opponent could take away 2 of their own LSs with their SoG/NJ, now they can't. So the current rule leaves 2 more available for you to take and therefore creates LESS soul drought....Sog/NJ + Burial = only 4 souls for Opponent to rescue, ergo, THEY COULD NOT WIN...While on a philosophical standpoint, SoG/NJ SHOULD be able to at least rescue any LS, Gameplay-wise, This still leaves your opponent having to rescue ALL 5 remaining souls(If Burial had been errata'd instead), and that is not conductive for gameplay. I know of some "evil" people who can recur "protect souls from rescue" EVERY TURN! And he is the greatest Danye of all...
I disagree with this. Before the rule change, your opponent could take away 2 of their own LSs with their SoG/NJ, now they can't. So the current rule leaves 2 more available for you to take and therefore creates LESS soul drought.
Quote from: Zexal92 on November 27, 2013, 03:31:06 AMQuote from: Prof Underwood on November 25, 2013, 01:58:27 PMI disagree with this. Before the rule change, your opponent could take away 2 of their own LSs with their SoG/NJ, now they can't. So the current rule leaves 2 more available for you to take and therefore creates LESS soul drought....Sog/NJ + Burial = only 4 souls for Opponent to rescue, ergo, THEY COULD NOT WIN...While on a philosophical standpoint, SoG/NJ SHOULD be able to at least rescue any LS, Gameplay-wise, This still leaves your opponent having to rescue ALL 5 remaining souls(If Burial had been errata'd instead), and that is not conductive for gameplay. I know of some "evil" people who can recur "protect souls from rescue" EVERY TURN! And he is the greatest Danye of all...They have SoG/NJ as well. so therefore 5 lost souls to rescue.
Quote from: Red on November 27, 2013, 09:34:43 AMQuote from: Zexal92 on November 27, 2013, 03:31:06 AMQuote from: Prof Underwood on November 25, 2013, 01:58:27 PMI disagree with this. Before the rule change, your opponent could take away 2 of their own LSs with their SoG/NJ, now they can't. So the current rule leaves 2 more available for you to take and therefore creates LESS soul drought....Sog/NJ + Burial = only 4 souls for Opponent to rescue, ergo, THEY COULD NOT WIN...While on a philosophical standpoint, SoG/NJ SHOULD be able to at least rescue any LS, Gameplay-wise, This still leaves your opponent having to rescue ALL 5 remaining souls(If Burial had been errata'd instead), and that is not conductive for gameplay. I know of some "evil" people who can recur "protect souls from rescue" EVERY TURN! And he is the greatest Danye of all...They have SoG/NJ as well. so therefore 5 lost souls to rescue.Not if I have Confusion
Quote from: DJWeb on November 27, 2013, 10:59:53 AMQuote from: Red on November 27, 2013, 09:34:43 AMQuote from: Zexal92 on November 27, 2013, 03:31:06 AMQuote from: Prof Underwood on November 25, 2013, 01:58:27 PMI disagree with this. Before the rule change, your opponent could take away 2 of their own LSs with their SoG/NJ, now they can't. So the current rule leaves 2 more available for you to take and therefore creates LESS soul drought....Sog/NJ + Burial = only 4 souls for Opponent to rescue, ergo, THEY COULD NOT WIN...While on a philosophical standpoint, SoG/NJ SHOULD be able to at least rescue any LS, Gameplay-wise, This still leaves your opponent having to rescue ALL 5 remaining souls(If Burial had been errata'd instead), and that is not conductive for gameplay. I know of some "evil" people who can recur "protect souls from rescue" EVERY TURN! And he is the greatest Danye of all...They have SoG/NJ as well. so therefore 5 lost souls to rescue.Not if I have ConfusionIf you pulled off SOG/NJ/Burial/Confusion, you deserved to win IMO. Besides, soul generation is now a thing, so soul lockout is almost impossible now.
I was,(albeit a short time) did not have a NJ... so... yeah....
Quote from: Lamborghini_diablo on November 27, 2013, 01:12:07 PMQuote from: DJWeb on November 27, 2013, 10:59:53 AMQuote from: Red on November 27, 2013, 09:34:43 AMQuote from: Zexal92 on November 27, 2013, 03:31:06 AMQuote from: Prof Underwood on November 25, 2013, 01:58:27 PMI disagree with this. Before the rule change, your opponent could take away 2 of their own LSs with their SoG/NJ, now they can't. So the current rule leaves 2 more available for you to take and therefore creates LESS soul drought....Sog/NJ + Burial = only 4 souls for Opponent to rescue, ergo, THEY COULD NOT WIN...While on a philosophical standpoint, SoG/NJ SHOULD be able to at least rescue any LS, Gameplay-wise, This still leaves your opponent having to rescue ALL 5 remaining souls(If Burial had been errata'd instead), and that is not conductive for gameplay. I know of some "evil" people who can recur "protect souls from rescue" EVERY TURN! And he is the greatest Danye of all...They have SoG/NJ as well. so therefore 5 lost souls to rescue.Not if I have ConfusionIf you pulled off SOG/NJ/Burial/Confusion, you deserved to win IMO. Besides, soul generation is now a thing, so soul lockout is almost impossible now.Soul lockout is most definitely not almost impossible now. Its not easy, but its very possible to do.
