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Offline galadgawyn

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Evil Recursion, Evil Recursion, Evil Recursion...
« on: November 26, 2008, 02:10:02 PM »
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Ok, I continue to think that the evil side is badly behind in recursion abilities.  It makes biblical sense why it is easier to recur heroes (ressurrection themes) but not for recurring enhancements.  Doesn't Satan use the same old temptations over and over? 

Evil Fortress
House of Adam or House of Ahab, etc.
S.A.  When your evil enhancements are discarded, place them here.  Each time a hero is converted to a evil character or captured, randomly take a evil enhancement from here and place it on the bottom of your deck.
Identifier: Holds any number of evil enhancements.

The fortress represents someone that set a precedent of evil that was repeatedly followed after and every time someone is turned evil then it perpetuates more evil.
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Re: Evil Recursion, Evil Recursion, Evil Recursion...
« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2008, 05:06:06 PM »
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Hmm, I like the idea but i think that specific card is pretty OP. For example, use any of the EEs that capture two characters, and you get back two other EEs that you already used. Imagine what a capture deck with raider's camp would look like at that point :P

Maybe if you changed it only to conversion, and a couple new evil converts were printed. Either that, or there could be a cost of some kind.
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Re: Evil Recursion, Evil Recursion, Evil Recursion...
« Reply #2 on: November 26, 2008, 06:02:20 PM »
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I actually would like it to be more powerful but I figured people would say it is OP.  Sure a straight capture deck would really benefit from it but there is a ton of protection against capture.  I thought it was restricted in power by randomly recurring the enhancement and it being on the bottom of the deck.  Is it really that powerful if you have to deck out to benefit from it? 

What about adding "If you have a demon and human evil character in play, each time a hero is converted......"?
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Re: Evil Recursion, Evil Recursion, Evil Recursion...
« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2008, 06:18:31 PM »
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1.  you don't always have to deck out to get the cards off the bottom of your deck.

2.  I prefer to leave it to just conversion because:
          a:  it is giving a little used evil theme a boost which is awesome.
          b:  it is truly creating more evil....keeping to theme of card
          c:  being captured technically shouldn't make you evil, even though somehow in redemption it means you're a lost soul.  (personally: I have never figured out why.)

3.  Generally speaking:  I like the card...it's very creative!
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Re: Evil Recursion, Evil Recursion, Evil Recursion...
« Reply #4 on: November 26, 2008, 06:25:45 PM »
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1.  Yeah, but I like that strategy getting a boost.  It would also encourage more comboing orange with other brigades which I think is good.

2.  c: I always thought of lost souls as being on the evil side.  I can see your point though.  If there were a couple more conversion cards then I think I'd be ok with it being just conversion.

3.  Thanks!
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Re: Evil Recursion, Evil Recursion, Evil Recursion...
« Reply #5 on: November 26, 2008, 07:16:29 PM »
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Quote from: galadgawyn on November 26, 2008, 06:25:45 PM
1.  Yeah, but I like that strategy getting a boost.  It would also encourage more comboing orange with other brigades which I think is good.

2.  c: I always thought of lost souls as being on the evil side.  I can see your point though.  If there were a couple more conversion cards then I think I'd be ok with it being just conversion.

3.  Thanks!
I would say conversion and removal from the game. Both are very underused. (There is what 5 convert cards and maybe 10 removal cards?) Personally I love it. Then again, I use Evil spirit ALOT.
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Re: Evil Recursion, Evil Recursion, Evil Recursion...
« Reply #6 on: November 26, 2008, 07:18:36 PM »
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You know, the first thing I thought was that it's actually UP, but I like it a lot either way. I agree that it should be just conversion (and maybe removal), and that more conversion cards should be made. (Getting slightly off-topic,) I have always thought that there should be more evil conversion cards, because there are way more ways to protect from conversion than there is actual conversion!
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Re: Evil Recursion, Evil Recursion, Evil Recursion...
« Reply #7 on: November 26, 2008, 07:19:19 PM »
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Quote from: BubbleBoy on November 26, 2008, 07:18:36 PM
You know, the first thing I thought was that it's actually UP, but I like it a lot either way. I agree that it should be just conversion (and maybe removal), and that more conversion cards should be made. (Getting slightly off-topic,) I have always thought that there should be more evil conversion cards, because there are way more ways to protect from conversion than there is actual conversion!
I know! Not to meantion I'd love this in my 100+ deck... Evil spirit goes in there... I play another to pull it back out... :D heheheheheheeee
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