Cactus Game Design Message Boards

Redemption® Collectible Trading Card Game HQ => Redemption® Resources and Thinktank => New Card Ideas => Topic started by: kariusvega on May 28, 2016, 05:59:23 PM

Title: Elohim
Post by: kariusvega on May 28, 2016, 05:59:23 PM
(https://www.cactusforums.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FQTAZ1jU.jpg&hash=d95ddfb416dcd6868ee83d7f45330cc9798ff87d)

random idea, more power to a Daniel deck/offense.
Title: Re: Elohim
Post by: Watchman on May 28, 2016, 07:01:53 PM
Elohim is the Hebrew word for God, so the person in the fire with the Hebrews was the Son of God (Jesus), at the very least the Angel of the Lord, both of which are obviously dominants. So I don't think giving this card the name Elohim will work as it's essentially saying it's God, which would make him the ultimate dominant :) Maybe this character would be better classed as some kind of protecting angel if he's to be a numbered character. Love the art and concept though.
Title: Re: Elohim
Post by: Minister Polarius on May 28, 2016, 07:13:09 PM
That verse is translated badly in that translation. He definitely didn't say "he looks like the Son of God," more like "he looks like one of the spiritual beings." If you change the name to Bar-Elohim, it'd work.
Title: Re: Elohim
Post by: Ironisaac on May 28, 2016, 07:18:51 PM
That verse is translated badly in that translation. He definitely didn't say "he looks like the Son of God," more like "he looks like one of the spiritual beings." If you change the name to Bar-Elohim, it'd work.

All of the translations I looked at said a divine being, son of the gods, or one of the gods. Regardless, I don't think there is much debate as to wether this is talking about God/Jesus.
Title: Re: Elohim
Post by: kariusvega on May 28, 2016, 07:28:52 PM
Polarius and I are literally laughing so hard about how this ability is completely broken.. lol sorry guys

looks cool though xD
Title: Re: Elohim
Post by: Ironisaac on May 28, 2016, 07:30:23 PM
random idea, more power to a Daniel deck/offense.

 ::) amazed you think they need more power...
Title: Re: Elohim
Post by: Watchman on May 28, 2016, 08:06:32 PM
Direct Hebrew translation says "like a son of the gods." Tanach bible 1.5
Title: Re: Elohim
Post by: YourMathTeacher on May 28, 2016, 08:31:24 PM
And here I thought Elohim would look more like Apocalypse.  ;)
Title: Re: Elohim
Post by: kariusvega on May 28, 2016, 08:38:18 PM
the real concept is to kind of 'stop time' make everything play matter most.. like everyone who witnessed this. i love this story.. i love the protection that Christ gave them in the face of the flames. it's a very powerful story, and I love that Nebuchadnezzar himself confessed it.

i also wanted to make some kind of card that works with The Second Coming and i felt like referring to a Daniel card and this moment especially is pretty cool.
Title: Re: Elohim
Post by: YourMathTeacher on May 28, 2016, 08:51:17 PM
the real concept is to kind of 'stop time' make everything play matter most.. like everyone who witnessed this. i love this story.. i love the protection that Christ gave them in the face of the flames. it's a very powerful story, and I love that Nebuchadnezzar himself confessed it.

What I love about the event is that three were thrown into the furnace, and four were seen inside. Logically that would mean that the fourth one was already there waiting.  ;D
Title: Re: Elohim
Post by: Ironisaac on May 28, 2016, 09:16:24 PM
the real concept is to kind of 'stop time' make everything play matter most.. like everyone who witnessed this. i love this story.. i love the protection that Christ gave them in the face of the flames. it's a very powerful story, and I love that Nebuchadnezzar himself confessed it.

What I love about the event is that three were thrown into the furnace, and four were seen inside. Logically that would mean that the fourth one was already there waiting.  ;D

I can just imagine the babylonians just standing there like "Whaaaa... but we put 3 in there... but... now there's four... ???"  ;D
Title: Re: Elohim
Post by: jesse on May 28, 2016, 10:25:34 PM
the real concept is to kind of 'stop time' make everything play matter most.. like everyone who witnessed this. i love this story.. i love the protection that Christ gave them in the face of the flames. it's a very powerful story, and I love that Nebuchadnezzar himself confessed it.

What I love about the event is that three were thrown into the furnace, and four were seen inside. Logically that would mean that the fourth one was already there waiting.  ;D

I hadn't thought of that but it totally makes sense because they couldn't have lasted a second in there without Him!  ;D Even the guards who threw them in died...but they didn't even have the smell of the fire on them when they came back out!  :o
Title: Re: Elohim
Post by: Minister Polarius on May 28, 2016, 11:07:31 PM
What about:

Bar-Elohim
Good Dominant
-This card is Bar-Elohim at face value-
"If played simultaneously with beginning a Rescue Attempt with Hananiah (Shadrach), Mishael (Meshach), and/or Azariah (Abednego), restrict all players from playing cards from hand."

/

Elohim
Good Dominant
-If targeted by The Second Coming, this card becomes Elohim-
"Negate and Rescue an O.T. Lost Soul."
Title: Re: Elohim
Post by: Ironisaac on May 29, 2016, 08:17:44 AM
What about:

Bar-Elohim
Good Dominant
-This card is Bar-Elohim at face value-
"If played simultaneously with beginning a Rescue Attempt with Hananiah (Shadrach), Mishael (Meshach), and/or Azariah (Abednego), restrict all players from playing cards from hand."

/

Elohim
Good Dominant
-If targeted by The Second Coming, this card becomes Elohim-
"Negate and Rescue an O.T. Lost Soul."

I really like this idea, but... aren't daniel decks powerful enough without this though? :o ;)
Title: Re: Elohim
Post by: Minister Polarius on May 29, 2016, 08:56:04 AM
Well, Rack, Shack and Benny are terrible choices for attacking with (particularly without Daniel himself), and it kind of balances it out by giving you a reason to include them for a single incredibly-powerful RA at the cost of 3 better Heroes and a Dom slot. You'll also typically need all 3 for it to be a cinch because Evil Banding is more popular than ever.
SimplePortal 2.3.3 © 2008-2010, SimplePortal