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Title: DoN, High Places and Idols
Post by: megamanlan on August 09, 2017, 10:35:21 AM
I'm moving passed Angels for a bit to go into an idea I've been thinking out a lot lately, Evil Priests. But first starting off with some new Idols, and a new DoN.

Spoiler: Destruction of Nehushtan (hover to show)

Spoiler: Nehushtan (hover to show)

Spoiler: Asherah Pole (hover to show)

Spoiler: Altar of Moloch (hover to show)

Spoiler: Golden Calf (hover to show)

Spoiler: Altar of Baal (hover to show)

Spoiler: High Places (hover to show)

I have a feeling some of these may be a tad OP... but let me know your thoughts on them! More stuff to come as well!

NOTE: I just realized that I had forgotten to put "your evil Human" instead of "a evil Human" on Altar of Baal. I'll change that when I get a chance... also taking suggestions for new art for Altar of Baal.
Title: Re: DoN, High Places and Idols
Post by: Kevinthedude on August 09, 2017, 10:45:40 AM
As you said the power level of some need tinkering but I really like the concepts behind these!
Title: Re: DoN, High Places and Idols
Post by: megamanlan on August 09, 2017, 10:47:46 AM
Which ones do you think are OP? Best to work out some ideas in my head to balance them =)
Title: Re: DoN, High Places and Idols
Post by: Kevinthedude on August 09, 2017, 10:54:44 AM
Which ones do you think are OP? Best to work out some ideas in my head to balance them =)

I'm not sure that Nehushtan should straight up protect from everything and Asherah Pole providing regardless of protection AND play the first might be a bit much. Also Nehushtan needs to only work on your characters since as is you can Holy Grail their entire territory with it for free.
Title: Re: DoN, High Places and Idols
Post by: Ironisaac on August 09, 2017, 11:04:48 AM
I really like these, especially high places! It might be jut a bit op, just because of the CRAZY banding chains you could get off that. Just stack your deck full of evil priests and banding demons, get a massive banding chain in, finish it off with someone with a play first ability, and end the battle. Probably better in t2, but awesome none the less.
Title: Re: DoN, High Places and Idols
Post by: megamanlan on August 09, 2017, 11:08:34 AM
Which ones do you think are OP? Best to work out some ideas in my head to balance them =)

I'm not sure that Nehushtan should straight up protect from everything and Asherah Pole providing regardless of protection AND play the first might be a bit much. Also Nehushtan needs to only work on your characters since as is you can Holy Grail their entire territory with it for free.

Ok, I forgot to put that it can only heal your char's.

And perhaps just that your first enhancment you play is regardless of protection then? (Pole's intended to be a strong counter to Koney... in case you can't tell =P)

Not sure how I can limit the Protect on Nehushtan too much though... perhaps to protecting your Evil cards from Opponent's good cards?
Title: Re: DoN, High Places and Idols
Post by: The Guardian on August 09, 2017, 11:09:07 AM
The identifier "depicting False Religious Practices" will not be used on any future cards.

Currently there is one card in the game that uses this phrase, Piety of Mary.

Quote
False Religious Practice
Piety of Mary (Wo) ignores “all special abilities on cards depicting a false religious
practice.” A card is considered to ‘Depicting a False Religious Practice’ if it depicts the
practicing of a false religion or a false practice of a true religion. The depiction can be in the
card art or scripture reference.

This card will likely be receiving an errata since you cannot actually ignore special abilities. We may or may not decide to continue using the identifier "false religious practice" which would be for cards like "Baal Worship" "Worshipping Demons" and "Ashtaroth Worship" where the cards would need to be actual practices, and would not be cards that simply depicted something related to false religions (i.e. Asherah Pole, which is just an idol, not a false religious practice in and of itself). If we did decide to keep that identifier, the REG would be updated and future cards would receive that identifier.

Stay tuned...  8)
Title: Re: DoN, High Places and Idols
Post by: megamanlan on August 09, 2017, 11:11:51 AM
The identifier "depicting False Religious Practices" will not be used on any future cards.

Currently there is one card in the game that uses this phrase, Piety of Mary.

Quote
False Religious Practice
Piety of Mary (Wo) ignores “all special abilities on cards depicting a false religious
practice.” A card is considered to ‘Depicting a False Religious Practice’ if it depicts the
practicing of a false religion or a false practice of a true religion. The depiction can be in the
card art or scripture reference.

This card will likely be receiving an errata since you cannot actually ignore special abilities. We may or may not decide to continue using the identifier "false religious practice" which would be for cards like "Baal Worship" "Worshipping Demons" and "Ashtaroth Worship" where the cards would need to be actual practices, and would not be cards that simply depicted something related to false religions (i.e. Asherah Pole, which is just an idol, not a false religious practice in and of itself). If we did decide to keep that identifier, the REG would be updated and future cards would receive that identifier.

Stay tuned...  8)

Hmm... If it is changed to something with False Religions I'll update it then =) Just not sure what exactly else to use to search them.

I really like these, especially high places! It might be jut a bit op, just because of the CRAZY banding chains you could get off that. Just stack your deck full of evil priests and banding demons, get a massive banding chain in, finish it off with someone with a play first ability, and end the battle. Probably better in t2, but awesome none the less.

I could add a OPT clause to that if it balances it out
Title: Re: DoN, High Places and Idols
Post by: megamanlan on August 09, 2017, 11:30:53 AM
I think Asherah Pole even though its designed to be a strong counter to Koney is a little too good with certain Evil Characters. You can just block with Nebuchadnezzar add Nergelsherezer to the battle and I get to play a CBN OT enhancement that gains regardless of protection. With Head of Gold you can win the battle unless they have multiple heroes banded because it makes you immune to silver and you will always get to capture humans which can target humans regardless of protection. Nebuchadnezzar can just keep pulling out Babylonians that can band to Nergelsherezer to consistently get a CBN regardless of protection enhancement as long as one has an OT enhancement.

Yea, I'm considering dropping the play part and just making it the first card gains regardless of protection.
Title: Re: DoN, High Places and Idols
Post by: kariusvega on August 09, 2017, 11:44:26 AM
Maybe have an evil priest who can search for cards involving pagan practice? Sort of an evil music leader.

Title: Re: DoN, High Places and Idols
Post by: Xonathan on August 09, 2017, 11:51:26 AM
Maybe have an evil priest who can search for cards involving pagan practice? Sort of an evil music leader.

Can we please have a card called Evil Music Leader? Music leader art with red eyes and background like the AB red dragon? Lol
Title: Re: DoN, High Places and Idols
Post by: megamanlan on August 09, 2017, 11:52:37 AM
Actually I might do Pagan Priest for that. He's a generic Priest that's technically Assyrian.
Title: Re: DoN, High Places and Idols
Post by: kariusvega on August 09, 2017, 11:54:38 AM
I feel like there are a lot of good tc enh that search for other ge but not many evil tc enh if any that search for ee
Title: Re: DoN, High Places and Idols
Post by: TheJaylor on August 09, 2017, 02:02:23 PM
I feel like there are a lot of good tc enh that search for other ge but not many evil tc enh if any that search for ee
JD just wants more ways to get Displeased out of his deck faster.  :P
Title: Re: DoN, High Places and Idols
Post by: kariusvega on August 09, 2017, 02:32:35 PM
I feel like there are a lot of good tc enh that search for other ge but not many evil tc enh if any that search for ee
JD just wants more ways to get Displeased out of his deck faster.  :P

Lol does it involve pagan practice?
Title: Re: DoN, High Places and Idols
Post by: megamanlan on August 09, 2017, 05:24:16 PM
Updated Nehushtan, Asherah Pole, Altar of Baal and High Places
Title: Re: DoN, High Places and Idols
Post by: Master Q on August 10, 2017, 12:36:05 PM
I think it's pretty strange that an idol can act as a convert card, but I'm actually liking a few of these (Golden Calf in particular). Glad to see new cards that aren't silver.  ;)

Maybe have an evil priest who can search for cards involving pagan practice? Sort of an evil music leader.

Can we please have a card called Evil Music Leader? Music leader art with red eyes and background like the AB red dragon? Lol

This is the new best idea! But I'm thinking more like a picture of Slash with red eyes slightly glowing under his shades. 8)
Title: Re: DoN, High Places and Idols
Post by: megamanlan on August 10, 2017, 03:15:37 PM
I think it's pretty strange that an idol can act as a convert card, but I'm actually liking a few of these (Golden Calf in particular). Glad to see new cards that aren't silver.  ;)

Maybe have an evil priest who can search for cards involving pagan practice? Sort of an evil music leader.

Can we please have a card called Evil Music Leader? Music leader art with red eyes and background like the AB red dragon? Lol

This is the new best idea! But I'm thinking more like a picture of Slash with red eyes slightly glowing under his shades. 8)

Well the Brass Serpent was originally made to heal the people of Israel and symbolize Christ's return, but was corrupted by the Jews and became an idol they made.

Thanks! Im surprised I haven't gotten any comments on my new DoN
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