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Delilah Re-Style
« on: January 06, 2010, 11:23:56 PM »
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please leave your ideas for a new updated delilah here. phillys are the biggest craze right now, and a new promo delilah would be uber awesome. who wouldnt like a philistine female? :)
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Re: Delilah Re-Style
« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2010, 11:29:12 PM »
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Im a personal Fan of the Old School one just make that one Black and maybe lower the numbers to like 3/3 and I think your game.
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Re: Delilah Re-Style
« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2010, 11:31:25 PM »
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uh, but its special abilities are pretty much garbage. needs something way cooler. probably something that affects males?
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Re: Delilah Re-Style
« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2010, 12:03:30 AM »
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Delilah.
Black Philistine, 5/5
If opponent rescues with a male hero, you may reveal 3 evil cards from hand to discard him. Opponent may reveal 3 good cards of matching brigade of the hero in battle to negate this. Cannot be prevented.

or something like that.

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Re: Delilah Re-Style
« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2010, 12:12:43 AM »
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Great thread idea!

Delilah.
Black Philistine, 5/5
If opponent rescues with a male hero, you may reveal 3 evil cards from hand to discard him. Opponent may reveal 3 good cards of matching brigade of the hero in battle to negate this. Cannot be prevented.

or something like that.
That is very nice!  I like how it emphasizes her craftiness (3 evil cards required), and punishes the opponent if he goes into battle counting on his own strength alone (without having enough good in hand).  It really encapsulates the Delilah/Samson interchange.

I'd word it a little shorter, and playtesting might reveal a need to limit it to OT evil cards.  I'd probably word the first draft like this: "You may reveal 3 O.T. evil cards from hand to discard a male hero in battle. Opponent may reveal 3 cards from hand matching the hero's brigade instead. Cannot be prevented."

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Re: Delilah Re-Style
« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2010, 12:17:12 AM »
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I like that... nice idea Ring Raith!
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Re: Delilah Re-Style
« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2010, 01:06:13 AM »
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Delilah.
Black Philistine, 5/5
If opponent rescues with a male hero, you may reveal 3 evil cards from hand to discard him. Opponent may reveal 3 good cards of matching brigade of the hero in battle to negate this. Cannot be prevented.

or something like that.
Love the idea, but Delilah didn't actually kill anyone. I'd word it:
"Reveal three Evil Cards from hand to Capture a Male, Human Hero in battle. If Hero is not a Judge, opponent may instead Reveal 3 cards matching Hero's Brigade from hand. Cannot be Prevented."
« Last Edit: January 07, 2010, 01:10:28 AM by Minister Polarius »
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Re: Delilah Re-Style
« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2010, 01:09:45 AM »
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In that case, I say we need a reprint of Samson as well:

Samson: 12/6 gold judge - The abilities (*/*) on all enhancements used on Samson are doubled. If Samson is captured, after one turn, owner may discard samson to discard a fortress in the territory this card is in.

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Re: Delilah Re-Style
« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2010, 11:22:28 AM »
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Samson: 12/6 gold judge - The abilities (*/*) on all enhancements used on Samson are doubled. If Samson is captured, after one turn, owner may discard samson to discard a fortress in the territory this card is in.
This is super cool :)

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Re: Delilah Re-Style
« Reply #9 on: January 07, 2010, 11:28:31 AM »
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I was debating two things in that ability though:

1) the use of may, so that it balances itself by being able to hit you as well.
2) the time before it goes boom.

Also, the last ability still seems akwardly worded to me, but I couldn't figure out any other way to say it.

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Re: Delilah Re-Style
« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2010, 11:37:57 AM »
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I was debating two things in that ability though:

1) the use of may, so that it balances itself by being able to hit you as well.
2) the time before it goes boom.

Also, the last ability still seems akwardly worded to me, but I couldn't figure out any other way to say it.
owner may... in holder's territory. maybe?
Delilah.
Black Philistine, 5/5
If opponent rescues with a male hero, you may reveal 3 evil cards from hand to discard him. Opponent may reveal 3 good cards of matching brigade of the hero in battle to negate this. Cannot be prevented.

or something like that.
Love the idea, but Delilah didn't actually kill anyone. I'd word it:
"Reveal three Evil Cards from hand to Capture a Male, Human Hero in battle. If Hero is not a Judge, opponent may instead Reveal 3 cards matching Hero's Brigade from hand. Cannot be Prevented."
true. but to be Biblically accurate, you'd have to add "If another Philistine is in battle" or something like that, since she didn't do the actual capturing, she just set the trap... but Capture does make more sense.

also, I like the addition of O.T.

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Re: Delilah Re-Style
« Reply #11 on: January 07, 2010, 02:31:15 PM »
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Good suggestion, Pol.  And the Samson is perfect, Lambo.

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Re: Delilah Re-Style
« Reply #12 on: January 07, 2010, 04:10:18 PM »
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In that case, I say we need a reprint of Samson as well:

Samson: 12/6 gold judge - The abilities (*/*) on all enhancements used on Samson are doubled. If Samson is captured, after one turn, owner may discard samson to discard a fortress in the territory this card is in.
I might add a cannot be negated on to there...

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Re: Delilah Re-Style
« Reply #13 on: January 07, 2010, 04:44:19 PM »
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awsome ideas! and that samson is pretty cool lambo...like, completely spot-on. finally makes some awesome characters...awesome. :)
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Re: Delilah Re-Style
« Reply #14 on: January 07, 2010, 05:26:45 PM »
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So... how many more good card suggestions do you think it'll take before I might be able to become a playtester, or at least help out with new sets?  :D

I kid, but I would really enjoy doing that.

*edit*

In that case, I say we need a reprint of Samson as well:

Samson: 12/6 gold judge - The abilities (*/*) on all enhancements used on Samson are doubled. If Samson is captured, after one turn, owner may discard samson to discard a fortress in the territory this card is in.
I might add a cannot be negated on to there...

Not a bad idea. Since adding CBN doesnt really make this card overpowered, but at the same time, lets samsons first ability work when it counts... FBTN.
« Last Edit: January 07, 2010, 05:28:51 PM by Lamborghini_diablo »

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Re: Delilah Re-Style
« Reply #15 on: January 07, 2010, 05:28:50 PM »
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i think you are one of the best capable on these boards, right alongside pol. oh, how i wish for the day cactus actually has a R&D team completely seperate from the playtesters. :)
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Re: Delilah Re-Style
« Reply #16 on: January 07, 2010, 07:39:58 PM »
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R&D?
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Re: Delilah Re-Style
« Reply #17 on: January 07, 2010, 07:44:33 PM »
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Research and Development

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Re: Delilah Re-Style
« Reply #18 on: January 07, 2010, 08:48:04 PM »
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Tweaked the wording around a little bit:


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Re: Delilah Re-Style
« Reply #19 on: January 07, 2010, 09:13:27 PM »
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Love it.
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Re: Delilah Re-Style
« Reply #20 on: January 07, 2010, 09:15:28 PM »
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lambo, any way you could possibly find a super cool pic to go with that super cool ability? i never really cared for the old artwork that much on such a powerhouse hero... :)
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Re: Delilah Re-Style
« Reply #21 on: January 07, 2010, 09:15:29 PM »
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i think you are one of the best capable on these boards, right alongside pol. oh, how i wish for the day cactus actually has a R&D team completely seperate from the playtesters. :)
That'd be awesome, because while the best people at making cards may not be the best at breaking them ;)
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Re: Delilah Re-Style
« Reply #22 on: January 07, 2010, 09:18:21 PM »
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well yeah, thats how it should be...R&D makes the cards, and its up to the playtesters to beta test them to make sure they're balanced and ok. when you have everyone doing everything, thats sort of a bias and conflict of interest...
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Re: Delilah Re-Style
« Reply #23 on: January 07, 2010, 09:19:37 PM »
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well yeah, thats how it should be...R&D makes the cards, and its up to the playtesters to beta test them to make sure they're balanced and ok. when you have everyone doing everything, thats sort of a bias and conflict of interest...
I think it is less of that and more, making 200 cards with 10? people is hard enough within half a year, let alone play testing them to check for issues. Not that our guys aren't doing an awesome job.
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Re: Delilah Re-Style
« Reply #24 on: January 07, 2010, 09:24:58 PM »
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im not saying they're not doing a fantastic job, because they are considering the number of people...im just saying we probably wouldnt have as many issues if we had specific people doing specific things. it was only wishful thinking on my part. :)
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