Author Topic: Death of satan. (Read 12667 times)

Red · « **Reply #25 on:** March 25, 2010, 07:05:16 PM »

God did walk with man genesis 3:8-24 mainly verse 8.

Lamborghini_diablo · « **Reply #26 on:** March 25, 2010, 07:07:24 PM »

Quote from: The Warrior on March 25, 2010, 07:03:39 PM

Have ur own beliefs! THIS IS THE SAME AS COLIN

Chill out, it's a theological debate. At the moment, it's a relatively calm one too.

Red · « **Reply #27 on:** March 25, 2010, 07:08:31 PM »

I'v backed my opions with scipture but none else has. I win debate?

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #28 on:** March 25, 2010, 07:26:22 PM »

Quote from: RED on March 25, 2010, 06:46:02 PM

Hell is seaparation from the LORD.^{Citation Needed} Jesus is the way to get back to God. When man fell at the garden of Eden we were separted from God. Adam and Eve walked with God so before the Fall, man was with God in the cool of the evening. So yes Hell is separation from God.^{Citation Needed}

Red · « **Reply #29 on:** March 25, 2010, 07:31:12 PM »

In Hell can you commucate with God? No. There's your Citation.

Rawrlolsauce! · « **Reply #30 on:** March 25, 2010, 07:35:16 PM »

Quote from: RED on March 25, 2010, 07:31:12 PM

In Hell can you commucate with God? No.^{[citation needed]} There's your Citation.

Please note this post is a joke...

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #31 on:** March 25, 2010, 07:40:02 PM »

That's not a citation, and I'll even give you a counterargument with a citation. Lazarus and the Rich Man are obviously able to communicate, so unless you're suggesting that Abraham was in hell too, it's clearly not cut of from the rest of eternity.

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In hell, where he was in torment, he looked up and saw Abraham far away, with Lazarus by his side.
So he called to him, 'Father Abraham, have pity on me and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, because I am in agony in this fire.'
"But Abraham replied, 'Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, while Lazarus received bad things, but now he is comforted here and you are in agony.

Luke 16:23-25. (To everyone except RED, I know the rebuttal to this argument argument so save your time, but perhaps now he'll see what a citation is).

In addition, the Bible directly says that those being tormented in the lake of fire are in the presence of the Lamb.

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A third angel followed them and said in a loud voice: "If anyone worships the beast and his image and receives his mark on the forehead or on the hand, he, too, will drink of the wine of God's fury, which has been poured full strength into the cup of his wrath. He will be tormented with burning sulfur in the presence of the holy angels and of the Lamb. And the smoke of their torment rises for ever and ever. There is no rest day or night for those who worship the beast and his image, or for anyone who receives the mark of his name."

Revelation 14:9-11

Your argument is totally invalid unless you give some very convincing counterarguments.

TDK · « **Reply #32 on:** March 25, 2010, 07:41:34 PM »

Quote from: Minister Polarius on March 25, 2010, 07:40:02 PM

That's not a citation, and I'll even give you a counterargument with a citation. Lazarus and the Rich Man are obviously able to communicate, so unless you're suggesting that Abraham was in hell too, it's clearly not cut of from the rest of eternity.
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In hell, where he was in torment, he looked up and saw Abraham far away, with Lazarus by his side.
So he called to him, 'Father Abraham, have pity on me and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, because I am in agony in this fire.'
"But Abraham replied, 'Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, while Lazarus received bad things, but now he is comforted here and you are in agony.
Luke 16:23-25. (To everyone except RED, I know the rebuttal to this argument argument so save your time, but perhaps now he'll see what a citation is).

In addition, the Bible directly says that those being tormented in the lake of fire are in the presence of the Lamb.
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A third angel followed them and said in a loud voice: "If anyone worships the beast and his image and receives his mark on the forehead or on the hand, he, too, will drink of the wine of God's fury, which has been poured full strength into the cup of his wrath. He will be tormented with burning sulfur in the presence of the holy angels and of the Lamb. And the smoke of their torment rises for ever and ever. There is no rest day or night for those who worship the beast and his image, or for anyone who receives the mark of his name."
Revelation 14:9-11

Your argument is totally invalid unless you give some very convincing counterarguments.

it went from a card idea to a debate wow!

Red · « **Reply #33 on:** March 25, 2010, 07:46:13 PM »

While I did post that only a little while ago I have since learned that you can pray in Hell but it does no good so while you get that little agument in the end I'm kinda right and so are you. We tie the debate.

TDK · « **Reply #34 on:** March 25, 2010, 07:57:59 PM »

Quote from: RED on March 25, 2010, 07:46:13 PM

While I did post that only a little while ago I have since learned that you can pray in Hell but it does no good so while you get that little agument in the end I'm kinda right and so are you. We tie the debate.

i believe that in Hell u can cry out to God but the point of Hell is totall seperation from God so he will not hear you. Jesus went into Hell but not to save so the prencence of God could be there but not for salvation once ur there ur there. Me and my dad agree on this.

Warrior_Monk · « **Reply #35 on:** March 25, 2010, 08:05:33 PM »

Quote from: RED on March 25, 2010, 07:46:13 PM

While I did post that only a little while ago I have since learned that you can pray in Hell but it does no good so while you get that little agument in the end I'm kinda right and so are you. We tie the debate.

no, you lose. God's word>RED's word. Pol used it, you did not. you're going off of everything you've been told, but as said earlier, it's a (common) misconception.

Quote from: TDK on March 25, 2010, 07:57:59 PM

Quote from: RED on March 25, 2010, 07:46:13 PM
While I did post that only a little while ago I have since learned that you can pray in Hell but it does no good so while you get that little agument in the end I'm kinda right and so are you. We tie the debate.
i believe that in Hell u can cry out to God but the point of Hell is totall seperation from God so he will not hear you. Jesus went into Hell but not to save so the prencence of God could be there but not for salvation once ur there ur there. Me and my dad agree on this.

fail. back that up with scripture and see if God, you, and your dad will agree on it.
Jesus said "Today you will be with me in Paradise." pretty sure Paradise isn't hell. if you really need me to look up the exact quote and the reference, I will.

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #36 on:** March 25, 2010, 08:07:40 PM »

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i believe that in Hell u can cry out to God but the point of Hell is totall seperation from God^{Citation Needed} so he will not hear you.

Warrior_Monk · « **Reply #37 on:** March 25, 2010, 08:08:48 PM »

this citation needed thing could become a new meme! epic!

Red · « **Reply #38 on:** March 25, 2010, 08:11:03 PM »

I'v backed up all but my last saying so I'd say I'm useing sciptiture also my dad is babtist preacher so I'm more knolegdealbe than you think.

Warrior_Monk · « **Reply #39 on:** March 25, 2010, 08:13:47 PM »

Quote from: RED on March 25, 2010, 08:11:03 PM

I'v backed up all but my last saying so I'd say I'm useing sciptiture also my dad is babtist preacher so I'm more knolegdealbe than you think.

I've yet to see one quote from the Bible.

and my dad was an Evengelical pastor and is now a Children's pastor. just because your a PK doesn't make you more pious then anybody else.
and Pol and I are both homeschooled, which, IMO, beats PK. I know a number of PK's who've rejected God.

Red · « **Reply #40 on:** March 25, 2010, 08:15:49 PM »

I'm homeschooled too so were equel. PK plus HS means pwnage. Also praying in hell is part of the Rich man and Lazurus thing. Have you read my refences? I posted scipture refs.

Warrior_Monk · « **Reply #41 on:** March 25, 2010, 08:17:42 PM »

Quote from: RED on March 25, 2010, 08:15:49 PM

I'm homeschooled too so were equel. PK plus HS means pwnage. Also praying in hell is part of the Rich man and Lazurus thing. have you read my refences? i posted scipture refs.

Quote from: RED on March 25, 2010, 07:05:16 PM

God did walk with man genesis 3:8-24 mainly verse 8.

this is the only one I see... and it isn't even talking about any of that. it's talking about God walking with man. but that was physical relation. we're all seperated now. until death...

Red · « **Reply #42 on:** March 25, 2010, 08:19:01 PM »

Then when you get to Hell your petty much separated. You could pray but to no avail.

Warrior_Monk · « **Reply #43 on:** March 25, 2010, 08:20:05 PM »

Quote from: RED on March 25, 2010, 08:19:01 PM

Then when you get to Hell your petty much separated. You could pray but to no avail.

again, I fail to see any biblical back up for this statement. just because you're a PK Homeschooler doesn't make you any more authoritive. all statements must be backed by the Bible.

Red · « **Reply #44 on:** March 25, 2010, 08:21:37 PM »

Read the story of the Rich man and lazurus story He's prays but probly to no avail.

xCaLeBx · « **Reply #45 on:** March 25, 2010, 08:21:48 PM »

PK homeschoolers hehehehehehe good luck getting a date.

I love how we are randomly spawning debate threads out of things like the utter wyn thread and this one

xCaLeBx · « **Reply #46 on:** March 25, 2010, 08:22:36 PM »

Quote from: RED on March 25, 2010, 08:21:37 PM

Read the story of the Rich man and lazurus story He's prays but probly to no avail.

sorry for a double post but..........................probably.......you can't go to court and say welllll he prolly didn't do it...I demand concrete evidence

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #47 on:** March 25, 2010, 08:23:09 PM »

Care to address my second citation? The burden of proof is on you now, and you've provided none.

@Caleb, homeschool 4eva.

Red · « **Reply #48 on:** March 25, 2010, 08:25:30 PM »

Sometimes you have to have FAITH sometimes you don't need proof like with the Bible.

xCaLeBx · « **Reply #49 on:** March 25, 2010, 08:26:11 PM »

Quote from: Minister Polarius on March 25, 2010, 08:23:09 PM

@Caleb, homeschool 4eva.

definately homeschool 4eva...PK....neva! ( and I'm a HS that gets date so Ha!) <that wasn't to Pol more of I can see me being quoted on that up their and then me being homeschooled and yeah..................................anyways

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