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I would change Micheal Rises to be Silver/White instead of Green/White so it would work with Micheal.

I still don't think good should have any end the battle cards, it's just too OP imho. (this is referring to the DAE)

Fair enough. Though I'm sure someone would find a combo granting someone access to white that could use this either pre-block or just very effectively post-block. But, combo players get screwed so often, they can have this one.

D'oh. I forgot about the "if opposed" part, my bad. *headdesk* I blame it on Daylight Savings making me lose an hour of sleep before an early work shift this morning. >_<

It can never be used pre-block under any circumstances. You have to be opposed (which you aren't pre-block) and you have to negate a Evil card in battle to end the battle (only doable pre-block if the Hero has something placed on him).

Mahari + Angel's Sword + CTB.  Best way I could think of to abuse it.

Quote from: megamanlan on March 11, 2012, 12:24:06 AM

I would change Micheal Rises to be Silver/White instead of Green/White so it would work with Micheal.

I think the point is that it doesn't work with Michael. We don't want silver to be self-sufficient.

That's the problem, how it is, I wouldn't play that in a Daniel deck, especially since it doesn't fit w/ Green at all. (And I doubt many others would either.) Also, not allowing Silver to be self-sufficient brings into question why they are there. The idea of a support brigade is just bad for the game. It would be just easier to then add them to the brigade they support and then just not have the brigade then to purposely cripple it and then give more OP cards to other brigades and have little to no complaints about it.

The idea of a support brigade is just bad for the game.

I see no proof of this. The game seems to be working just fine with silver as a splashable support brigade (in fact, you see silver in almost every deck with the way it works now).

It's not a useless brigade, though. That's what we've been trying to say. Usefulness is not limited to mono-brigade decks, and silver has some very powerful heroes that help several different themes.

It could be argued that Sam, the best deck in the game, couldn't function without Angels, so there goes that argument.

You'd be hard-pressed to find many cards that ARE "how [they were] in the Bible" considering there are no cards, decks, "lost souls", or players in the Bible and there's no "removing from the game," drawing, setting aside, placing face-down, discarding, ignoring, etc.

How I see this thread...

"Yay, Daniel cards! Let's try this and this and this..."
megamanlan: "Silver shouldn't be a support brigade."
"Why?"
megamanlan: "Well, silver is UP."
"No it's not."
megamanlan: "Yes it is, and there shouldn't even be a silver."
"...No, it works just fine. Silver is a healthy support brigade with interesting effects."
megamanlan: "Well, this silver card is not Biblical."
"..."

megamanlan, silver as a support brigade is far more Biblical than most aspects of the game, as most of the accounts of angels in the Bible have to do with them giving messages to humans or rebuking humans or giving humans visions, etc. They rarely do things for themselves (though it does happen; thus cards like Captain, Gabe, and Mike). Sure, some silver cards might not make sense, but neither do lots of other cards. Game-wise, silver definitely and unarguably has powerful cards, and most of them help other brigades and themes, which adds an interesting factor to the game. Sure, you could argue that angels should never have been put into a separate brigade, but they're there now, so that's just beating a dead horse.

Noooooooooooooo!  Poor Porkins