Author Topic: Controversial reprints (Read 21307 times)

Jack Skellington · « **on:** March 07, 2008, 04:12:55 PM »

Uzza 3/4
Red brigade GOOD character
SA: When one of your art.s would be discarded, you may discard this card from play to return the artifact to your atr pile
Ref. same

Pontias Pilot 10/4
Gold GOOD character.
SA; When your SOG is discarded you may remove this card from play to pace SOG back into your deck.

Joab 6/6
(don't know brigade, Maby pale green?) Evil Character
SA: Discard one of your evil Characters in play to discard any hero with ref from Kings I and II, Cron. I and II, or David.

So just my oppinions on some cards that were wrongly selected as Good Or Evil.

Bob54 · « **Reply #1 on:** March 07, 2008, 04:21:08 PM »

I like the Pontios Pilate one 'cause I never understood why he was considered an evil character.

TheKarazyvicePresidentRR · « **Reply #2 on:** March 07, 2008, 04:39:54 PM »

pilot i'd say would be purple, joab would be brown due to Brown is where evil isrealites seeminly go.

sepjazzwarrior · « **Reply #3 on:** March 07, 2008, 04:42:08 PM »

your pontias pilot is extremely overpowered. Should probably word if sog is discarded without being used.

Prof Underwood · « **Reply #4 on:** March 07, 2008, 04:55:23 PM »

Quote from: Bob54 on March 07, 2008, 04:21:08 PM

I like the Pontios Pilate one 'cause I never understood why he was considered an evil character.

I think he is an EC because he was spineless and sentenced a man he knew was innocent (Jesus) to be executed for his own personal gain (to appease a mob and maintain order so that he could keep his life and position as governor).

TimMierz · « **Reply #5 on:** March 07, 2008, 06:06:37 PM »

Prof Underwood has already commented on Pontius Pilate. As for Uzzah, he did not give enough reverence to God's presence. Joab is easily made into an Evil Character by the promo Adonijah.

TheKarazyvicePresidentRR · « **Reply #6 on:** March 07, 2008, 06:21:57 PM »

Quote from: TimMierz on March 07, 2008, 06:06:37 PM

Prof Underwood has already commented on Pontius Pilate. As for Uzzah, he did not give enough reverence to God's presence. Joab is easily made into an Evil Character by the promo Adonijah.

He tried catching the ark as it almost hit the ground if memory serves, so that could be seen as good though I don't think he should be reprinted.

New Raven BR · « **Reply #7 on:** March 07, 2008, 06:56:14 PM »

why is Pontius Pilate a hero?

Jack Skellington · « **Reply #8 on:** March 07, 2008, 07:01:03 PM »

Quote from: New Raven on March 07, 2008, 06:56:14 PM

why is Pontius Pilate a hero?

Because he tried many times to save Jesus and in the end IMO he did a very neutral thing.

TimMierz · « **Reply #9 on:** March 07, 2008, 07:30:53 PM »

Quote from: TheKarazyvicePresidentRR on March 07, 2008, 06:21:57 PM

[Uzzah] tried catching the ark as it almost hit the ground if memory serves, so that could be seen as good though I don't think he should be reprinted.

God didn't seem to think it was a good thing, since he struck Uzzah down right then.

Bob54 · « **Reply #10 on:** March 07, 2008, 07:33:53 PM »

It's only decendents of Aaron who are allowed to touch the ark.

Alex_Olijar · « **Reply #11 on:** March 07, 2008, 07:38:46 PM »

The problem was that they were carrying it wrong. It was to be carried by priests with the ark on poles. They ahd it in a cart. Hence the issue.

Jack Skellington · « **Reply #12 on:** March 07, 2008, 10:13:08 PM »

Quote from: Janissary on March 07, 2008, 07:38:46 PM

The problem was that they were carrying it wrong. It was to be carried by priests with the ark on poles. They ahd it in a cart. Hence the issue.

Precisely!

Alex_Olijar · « **Reply #13 on:** March 07, 2008, 10:43:29 PM »

He's still a EC. He should be. He disobeyed a direct command from God to not touch the Ark. PERIOD.

Jack Skellington · « **Reply #14 on:** March 07, 2008, 10:45:39 PM »

Quote from: Janissary on March 07, 2008, 10:43:29 PM

He's still a EC. He should be. He disobeyed a direct command from God to not touch the Ark. PERIOD.

It was either that or it would tumble down a hillside and crash into oblivion.

Alex_Olijar · « **Reply #15 on:** March 07, 2008, 10:46:30 PM »

How do you know that? Where you there?

Jack Skellington · « **Reply #16 on:** March 07, 2008, 10:48:06 PM »

Quote from: Janissary on March 07, 2008, 10:46:30 PM

How do you know that? Where you there?

Haha

Typical. i know it would have fallen and tumbles out of the cart onto the COLD, HARD GROUND.

Alex_Olijar · « **Reply #17 on:** March 07, 2008, 10:50:36 PM »

I don't think your being very real in your statement. Wow, the Ark made of solid wood and Gold overlay is going to crumble. If nothing else, God will tell David to get someone to fix it and it will be ok and Uzzah will be alive.

Lamborghini_diablo · « **Reply #18 on:** March 07, 2008, 11:02:16 PM »

still, its a natural reflex of people to try and stop things from falling...

Prof Underwood · « **Reply #19 on:** March 08, 2008, 12:37:37 AM »

So basically the situation here is that what Uzzah did was follow:

A. his natural instincts (to catch a falling object), or
B. his logic and reason (that said catching the Ark was better than letting it hit the ground), instead of
C. God's direct command to not touch the Ark.

I don't see what the argument is on this issue. If you boil it down, does anyone here really think that it is "right" for a person to follow natural instincts or even logic instead of being obedient to God?

King David's oldest son followed his natural instincts when he slept with his sister, but no one is arguing that he is a good character. All the people outside of Noah's family followed logic that told them that there was no danger of drowning in a worldwide flood, but no one is arguing that they were good characters.

Lamborghini_diablo · « **Reply #20 on:** March 08, 2008, 12:57:28 AM »

Quote from: Prof Underwood on March 08, 2008, 12:37:37 AM

King David's oldest son followed his natural instincts when he slept with his sister, but no one is arguing that he is a good character. All the people outside of Noah's family followed logic that told them that there was no danger of drowning in a worldwide flood, but no one is arguing that they were good characters.

Natural Reflex is different from Natural Instinct.

Prof Underwood · « **Reply #21 on:** March 08, 2008, 01:07:26 AM »

Quote from: Lamborghini_diablo on March 08, 2008, 12:57:28 AM

Natural Reflex is different from Natural Instinct.

Yes, it is. I teach Biology, and a reflex is a simple, innate behavior. An instinct is a complex, innate behavior. However, both of these innate behaviors can be overcome with training (learned behavior). And in Uzzah's case, he should have "learned" that when dealing with the Ark of the Covenant, you never touch it for any reason.

D-man · « **Reply #22 on:** March 08, 2008, 10:43:25 AM »

Quote from: Lamborghini_diablo on March 08, 2008, 12:57:28 AM

Quote from: Prof Underwood on March 08, 2008, 12:37:37 AM
King David's oldest son followed his natural instincts when he slept with his sister, but no one is arguing that he is a good character. All the people outside of Noah's family followed logic that told them that there was no danger of drowning in a worldwide flood, but no one is arguing that they were good characters.

Natural Reflex is different from Natural Instinct.

I wouldn't try to excuse him. It seems rather obvious that he should be evil, since God killed him.

NWJosh · « **Reply #23 on:** March 09, 2008, 04:20:14 PM »

Were all assuming that because he did this sin that therefore he could not be considered a hero. According to the Bible I see alot of people who we have as heros that could in alot of ways be villians and alot of people we have as villians who could in some ways be heros. I see the biggest sin about Uzzahs situation was in fact David's sin. Do I think Uzzah is innocent no but at the same time if we say Uzzah can't be a hero becuse of this situation I would say David shouldn't be a hero because he is the reason this all occured. Just my two sense from a stubborn Pastor.

Alex_Olijar · « **Reply #24 on:** March 09, 2008, 04:49:38 PM »

Well, this is the only mention of Uzzah, as it is bad, so they chose to make him an EC.

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