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Title: Choice Benjamites
Post by: stefferweffer on July 16, 2010, 11:22:07 AM
Choice Benjamites
7/7 Red Brigade Warrior-Class GENERIC male hero

If holding a weapon, then negate all special abilities on characters and enhancements (except this ability).

Judges 20:16 "each one could sling a stone at a hair and not miss."
Title: Re: Choice Benjamites
Post by: CJSports on July 16, 2010, 12:06:07 PM
What the heck is the point of this card there is no way they would make that. A generic negate all SA dude yeah right. ::)
Title: Re: Choice Benjamites
Post by: Professoralstad on July 16, 2010, 12:11:17 PM
It's actually not bad, as it negates Warrior class abilities, so it couldn't be part of a WC FBTN banding chain. And we all know Red could use a decent FBTN hero. The one issue I have is that he would negate the ability of the weapon he is holding, which seems contrary to the verse. I would change it ever so slightly:

If holding a weapon, then negate all special abilties on characters and enhancements except red weapons and this ability.
Title: Re: Choice Benjamites
Post by: stefferweffer on July 16, 2010, 12:33:13 PM
It's actually not bad, as it negates Warrior class abilities, so it couldn't be part of a WC FBTN banding chain. And we all know Red could use a decent FBTN hero. The one issue I have is that he would negate the ability of the weapon he is holding, which seems contrary to the verse. I would change it ever so slightly:

If holding a weapon, then negate all special abilties on characters and enhancements except red weapons and this ability.

I thought of that, but certain cards like Warrior's Spear and other good red ones could become brutal combos and perhaps make it OP.

As to the possibility of it being too powerful (from the previous post), most of us agree that Red needs a good boost, and they don't get the boost UNLESS they also have a weapon on them, meaning it is a minimum 2 card combo.  And with them being Judges reference, and even negating Warrior-Class stuff, they cannot be used in those huge banding chains.
Title: Re: Choice Benjamites
Post by: stefferweffer on July 16, 2010, 12:44:30 PM
What the heck is the point of this card there is no way they would make that. A generic negate all SA dude yeah right. ::)
You do know that in Type 1 you'd still be limited to one per deck, right?
Title: Re: Choice Benjamites
Post by: BubbleBoy on July 16, 2010, 12:53:44 PM
If holding a weapon, then negate all special abilties on characters and enhancements except red weapons and this ability.
I would shorten it like this: "If holding a weapon, negate all non-weapon class enhancements and characters except this one."
Title: Re: Choice Benjamites
Post by: stefferweffer on July 16, 2010, 12:55:03 PM
If holding a weapon, then negate all special abilties on characters and enhancements except red weapons and this ability.
I would shorten it like this: "If holding a weapon, negate all non-weapon class enhancements and characters except this one."
Sounds good.  I just copied and pasted the special ability text on the 10th Anniversarry Moses card :)
Title: Re: Choice Benjamites
Post by: JSB23 on July 16, 2010, 01:02:53 PM
If holding a weapon, then negate all special abilties on characters and enhancements except red weapons and this ability.
I would shorten it like this: "If holding a weapon, negate all non-weapon class enhancements and characters except this one."
Then he can be part of the banding chain
Title: Re: Choice Benjamites
Post by: uthminister [BR] on July 16, 2010, 01:04:42 PM
What the heck is the point of this card there is no way they would make that. A generic negate all SA dude yeah right. ::)
You do know that in Type 1 you'd still be limited to one per deck, right?

Unless you have a 154 card deck...
Title: Re: Choice Benjamites
Post by: Josh on July 16, 2010, 01:09:42 PM
If holding a weapon, then negate all special abilties on characters and enhancements except red weapons and this ability.
I would shorten it like this: "If holding a weapon, negate special abilities on characters and non-weapon class enhancements except this one."
Reversed the order of the wording to stop Abishai-Heldai-Asahel-Choice Benjamites.
Title: Re: Choice Benjamites
Post by: stefferweffer on July 16, 2010, 01:11:43 PM
If holding a weapon, then negate all special abilties on characters and enhancements except red weapons and this ability.
I would shorten it like this: "If holding a weapon, negate special abilities on characters and non-weapon class enhancements except this one."
Reversed the order of the wording to stop Abishai-Heldai-Asahel-Choice Benjamites.
Thanks.  I didn't intend this card for banding chains :)
Title: Re: Choice Benjamites
Post by: BubbleBoy on July 16, 2010, 06:11:14 PM
In my version of the ability, I made no exception to warrior class, only weapon class. Warrior class characters are still negated. See: Captain of the Host (Kings).
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