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Title: Cain
Post by: Ironisaac on March 03, 2016, 08:56:56 PM
Here's an idea for a Cain card i made feed back welcome!
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Title: Re: Cain
Post by: Legolas on March 03, 2016, 09:23:40 PM
Maybe you could do your opponents hero or would that be to op
Title: Re: Cain
Post by: Ironisaac on March 03, 2016, 09:43:52 PM
I made it this way to be biblically accurate, because able was cain's brother
Title: Re: Cain
Post by: Josh on March 04, 2016, 09:46:06 AM
I like the part of Cain's existing (Patriarchs?) card that provides "retribution" if he is discarded by an opponent.  I think that fits the Biblical story better than just protecting Cain from Discard. 

And evil characters being protected from Discard, from both special abilities and game rule, is OP, even without the CBN.  With CBN, Cain would be in every deck. 

You can fix this by changing his ability to punish a player that discards Cain.  And keep the CBN, since it was God who "marked" him; things that God does should be CBN  :)
Title: Re: Cain
Post by: Ironisaac on March 04, 2016, 09:53:49 AM
Yeah, i thought there was two sides to the verse, one that protects him, and another with retribution. I went with the one that hadn't been made yet. The verse does say God marks him so that people wouldn't kill him. But your right, too op.
Title: Re: Cain
Post by: dermo4christ on March 04, 2016, 12:37:57 PM
Yeah, i thought there was two sides to the verse, one that protects him, and another with retribution. I went with the one that hadn't been made yet. The verse does say God marks him so that people wouldn't kill him. But your right, too op.

I love this idea! Great card art and style!  However, I agree with the others. This card would be in every deck with the CBN and it is very OP'd. Maybe something like this: "Negate Banding.  Once per game you may discard your male human hero or reveal a good dominant to protect Cain from opponents'. Cannot be negated."
Title: Re: Cain
Post by: wyatt_marcum on March 05, 2016, 11:37:13 AM
he would still be in every deck that way. kill a hero for a guaranteed block? will do. I would still just protect from discard, not everything.
Title: Re: Cain
Post by: Noah on March 07, 2016, 12:43:46 PM
What if you made it protect Cain from opponents but only be CBN if Abel is the hero you discard?
Title: Re: Cain
Post by: Legolas on March 07, 2016, 05:13:29 PM
What if it was you may protect Cain from opponents when Abel is in discard pile, after protecting Cain remove Abel from the game?
 
What if you made it protect Cain from opponents but only be CBN if Abel is the hero you discard?
Title: Re: Cain
Post by: dermo4christ on March 08, 2016, 09:13:15 AM
What if it was you may protect Cain from opponents when Abel is in discard pile, after protecting Cain remove Abel from the game?
 
What if you made it protect Cain from opponents but only be CBN if Abel is the hero you discard?

I could see this as a good way to express the story.  However, I would still reword this because it's a little confusing. Maybe this: "If Abel is in your discard pile, protect Cain from opponents' and then remove Abel after battle." I think this is a little clearer.
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