Author Topic: Bondage to Pharaoh (Read 3485 times)

browarod · « **on:** March 22, 2012, 02:39:58 PM »

Bondage to Pharaoh
0/0 Blue/Evil Gold DAE, TC
"Search deck for a Lost Soul and place in your Land of Bondage. Its special ability cannot be negated."
~Genesis 47:25

Chronic Apathy · « **Reply #1 on:** March 22, 2012, 02:41:50 PM »

I'm not sure what the incentive to use this card is here, other than maybe pulling out Speed Bump or Thorns.

Wings of Music · « **Reply #2 on:** March 22, 2012, 02:41:58 PM »

Quote from: browarod on March 22, 2012, 02:39:58 PM

Bondage to Pharaoh
0/0 Blue/Evil Gold DAE, TC
"Search deck for a Lost Soul and place in your Land of Bondage. Its special ability cannot be negated."
~Genesis 47:25

Hmmm interesting, would this be searching any deck or just your own? If it's just my own deck I probably won't use it. But if I can use it for soul gen or for pulling the FBTN out of my deck, I just might use it. Based on the current wording it would only search your own deck.

browarod · « **Reply #3 on:** March 22, 2012, 02:43:14 PM »

Quote from: Chronic Apathy on March 22, 2012, 02:41:50 PM

I'm not sure what the incentive to use this card is here, other than maybe pulling out Speed Bump or Thorns.

Pretty much that. It would make the situational Souls with fun abilities more viable (as you would be better able to control when you have it).

Wings of Music · « **Reply #4 on:** March 22, 2012, 02:45:05 PM »

I would allow it to search any deck for a lost soul, I think that would make it far more usable. Otherwise if probably wouldn't see that much use.

Except possibly in type II...

browarod · « **Reply #5 on:** March 22, 2012, 02:48:07 PM »

Genesis really doesn't need more soul gen, so I'm leaning heavily against allowing this to search any deck but your own.

Chronic Apathy · « **Reply #6 on:** March 22, 2012, 02:50:07 PM »

I don't see anyone using it in it's current form - a few ideas:
"Search any deck for a Lost Soul and put in owner's Land of Bondage. That soul cannot be negated."
"Search your deck for a Lost Soul and put it in play. Your Lost Souls cannot be negated for the next round."

The only problem with the second one is that cards can't retroactively gain CBN status, so it would have to be reworded to make that work.

Wings of Music · « **Reply #7 on:** March 22, 2012, 02:52:22 PM »

Quote from: browarod on March 22, 2012, 02:48:07 PM

Genesis really doesn't need more soul gen, so I'm leaning heavily against allowing this to search any deck but your own.

Yeah, I totally hear what you're saying. I understand the reasons to not make it do that. It's just that I know I, like Chronic, would not use the card in its current form

Arrthoa · « **Reply #8 on:** March 22, 2012, 03:16:56 PM »

Seems like a wasted card slot to me. Would make more since if it was a capture card since its title has bondage in it.

Note: Someone gave me a -1 and I posted that someone didn't like me posting my opinion. Pol posted what -1 was and I saw the post was 0 so I remove my most that Pol commented on.

browarod · « **Reply #9 on:** March 22, 2012, 03:37:29 PM »

Quote from: Chronic Apathy on March 22, 2012, 02:50:07 PM

The only problem with the second one is that cards can't retroactively gain CBN status, so it would have to be reworded to make that work.

That depends on something I don't think ever got an official ruling: FBTN being rescued, Lost Souls kick back in?

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #10 on:** March 22, 2012, 07:37:41 PM »

-1 means "I disagree" much more often than "shut up."

browarod · « **Reply #11 on:** March 22, 2012, 11:01:46 PM »

Quote from: Minister Polarius on March 22, 2012, 07:37:41 PM

-1 means "I disagree" much more often than "shut up."

...Did I miss something?

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #12 on:** March 22, 2012, 11:05:13 PM »

Yes. I'll leave it up to the person who deleted his post to clarify if he wants.

lp670sv · « **Reply #13 on:** March 22, 2012, 11:09:17 PM »

Quote from: browarod on March 22, 2012, 03:37:29 PM

Quote from: Chronic Apathy on March 22, 2012, 02:50:07 PM
The only problem with the second one is that cards can't retroactively gain CBN status, so it would have to be reworded to make that work.
That depends on something I don't think ever got an official ruling: FBTN being rescued, Lost Souls kick back in?

FBTN Lost Souls special ability stays active until the next phase. So if you rescue in the battle phase, the special abilities on the other LSs reactivate in the discard phase.

browarod · « **Reply #14 on:** March 22, 2012, 11:12:13 PM »

So given that ruling, would Lost Souls already in play not be able to gain CBN status at that point? And if that's a yes, then do they reactivate every phase, or is it something special with FBTN?

I'm asking because of Chronic's thought about making all Souls CBN and if it would actually work.

lp670sv · « **Reply #15 on:** March 22, 2012, 11:16:25 PM »

how about "all cards that target lost souls are negated for one round"

Chronic Apathy · « **Reply #16 on:** March 22, 2012, 11:20:27 PM »

Quote from: lp670sv on March 22, 2012, 11:16:25 PM

how about "all cards that target lost souls are negated for one round"

Cards like Isaiah's Call would still work.

lp670sv · « **Reply #17 on:** March 22, 2012, 11:21:32 PM »

Well that's the best you can do since you can't retroactively make them be CBN, except for maybe protect all LSs from being Negated for a round.

Arrthoa · « **Reply #18 on:** March 22, 2012, 11:50:40 PM »

Quote from: browarod on March 22, 2012, 11:01:46 PM

Quote from: Minister Polarius on March 22, 2012, 07:37:41 PM
-1 means "I disagree" much more often than "shut up."
...Did I miss something?

The explanation is on my first post on the topic.

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