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Days o' Creation
« on: December 04, 2016, 02:03:38 PM »
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Something I've been wanting to see for awhile is a theme based on the days of creation. So I made one instead. :P

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As you can see, I tried something different with the numbers. By using negatives, it's kind of like a cost thing, so you couldn't spam them all on a small character. I was originally going to make them all just blue/silver with a limit of 1 per deck, but decided to make them all tri brigades to accomplish the same thing. I assigned each brigade to the best corresponding day (or as best as I could). I was going to try for an alt-win condition, but thought it would be too easy so I went with an alt-rescue card for the 7th.

Speaking of the 7th, it is worded specifically to get around Coliseum so it's not tossed, as Gabriel (I) recurring it every turn would be a potential AotL on each attack, which I thought was too strong. Anyways, let me know what you think! I could see Job decks becoming a thing again with these.
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Re: Days o' Creation
« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2016, 02:19:41 PM »
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I LOVE all of these!

Nitpicky:
The Sixth Day should say "and gain X toughness." (it's not called defense in Redemption :P)

May I suggest that The Seventh Day be reworded to say something like "If you have 6 good Enhancements with "Day" in the title in your discard pile..." That way if a character or evil enhancement is ever printed with "Day" in the title it doesn't make this rescue easier. Also, "The Long Day" is an already-blue enhancement that might actually fit pretty well in this deck and would also count toward The Seventh Day (with either wording). Was that intended?

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Re: Days o' Creation
« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2016, 02:43:02 PM »
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This is by far the largest amount of generally balanced and cool cards I've seen in one card ideas post. At first glance the only thing I would change is the draw 3 on the third day. Territory class draw three with no drawback is an auto include in every deck that can run it and pretty OP. The card is still good after just removing that option.

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Re: Days o' Creation
« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2016, 06:08:58 PM »
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I really like these ideas alot. Excellent overall. I might change the brigades on a few of the cards. Mostly the 6th day since it could potentially make throne faster. Not completely sure there but just my opinion. I also might make the second day protect more than just itself and discard. Just my thought though. Great ideas.

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Re: Days o' Creation
« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2016, 06:43:52 PM »
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great ideas +1

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Re: Days o' Creation
« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2016, 08:44:29 PM »
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May I suggest that The Seventh Day be reworded to say something like "If you have 6 good Enhancements with "Day" in the title in your discard pile..." That way if a character or evil enhancement is ever printed with "Day" in the title it doesn't make this rescue easier. Also, "The Long Day" is an already-blue enhancement that might actually fit pretty well in this deck and would also count toward The Seventh Day (with either wording). Was that intended?

That is a bit longer though, and I don't think it would fit. I did not think of the Long Day, but if you can get it in here, then power to you (that card could use some use). 7 enhancements is already a lot I think for a deck, but I do agree playing the Long Day and then decreasing yourself with another "Day" enhancement to start a new rescue would be pretty sweet. 8)

At first glance the only thing I would change is the draw 3 on the third day. Territory class draw three with no drawback is an auto include in every deck that can run it and pretty OP. The card is still good after just removing that option.

I designed it to be quite splashy, and it's (begrudgingly admitted) probably too good with the green (the ability was not changed when green was added). What if it was "Negate a card. You may search deck for a Site or Fortress. If used by a Genesis Hero or played during battle, you may draw 3. Cannot be prevented."?

I might change the brigades on a few of the cards. Mostly the 6th day since it could potentially make throne faster. Not completely sure there but just my opinion. I also might make the second day protect more than just itself and discard. Just my thought though. Great ideas.

I think Throne does enough drawing to not need something like this. It's just purple because of the authority/ruling aspect. For the 2nd Day, I pretty much wanted it to keep your Day cards in discard safe so 7th has a chance to work. Adding anything to it would likely make it too long. :-\
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Re: Days o' Creation
« Reply #6 on: December 04, 2016, 10:49:09 PM »
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These are amazing! I thought of the 7 days concept a while ago to, so it's great to see you've given these cards some love! Awesome job man  8) :thumbup:
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Re: Days o' Creation
« Reply #7 on: December 04, 2016, 10:58:49 PM »
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I designed it to be quite splashy, and it's (begrudgingly admitted) probably too good with the green (the ability was not changed when green was added). What if it was "Negate a card. You may search deck for a Site or Fortress. If used by a Genesis Hero or played during battle, you may draw 3. Cannot be prevented."?
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Drop if used by a Genesis Hero and its fine. Territory class drawing is extremely powerful and a free draw 3 is just straight up broken, especially with the card doing several other good things along with it.

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Re: Days o' Creation
« Reply #8 on: December 05, 2016, 10:02:27 AM »
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what does Banish mean again??????????????????

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Re: Days o' Creation
« Reply #9 on: December 05, 2016, 10:07:14 AM »
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what does Banish mean again??????????????????

It's going to be the new name for remove from the game.

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Re: Days o' Creation
« Reply #10 on: December 05, 2016, 12:53:49 PM »
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Beautifully designed cards. I like them a lot.
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Re: Days o' Creation
« Reply #11 on: December 05, 2016, 01:28:33 PM »
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i think for the seventh day, it should be just cbp, not cbn, that's too op.
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Re: Days o' Creation
« Reply #12 on: December 05, 2016, 07:14:13 PM »
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i think for the seventh day, it should be just cbp, not cbn, that's too op.

I suppose it shouldn't matter if it's CBI, as there's far less ways to stop it after it's been played. Consider it CBP only.


Drop if used by a Genesis Hero and its fine. Territory class drawing is extremely powerful and a free draw 3 is just straight up broken, especially with the card doing several other good things along with it.

So, "Negate a card. Search deck for a Site or Fortress. If played during battle, you may draw 3. Cannot be prevented." Fair enough. CID.

Thanks to all to comment so far!  8)
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Re: Days o' Creation
« Reply #13 on: December 06, 2016, 02:22:52 AM »
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I would probably put a "Creation Day" identifier on them, so that on the Seventh Day you could say "If you have 6 Creation Day cards..." It simplifies it (in my opinion) and keeps the combo from being thematically diluted by The Long Day and possibly other cards in the future, especially in T2 where you can have 4 The Long Days.

Anyway, I really like these cards.
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Re: Days o' Creation
« Reply #14 on: December 09, 2016, 01:33:16 PM »
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I would probably put a "Creation Day" identifier on them, so that on the Seventh Day you could say "If you have 6 Creation Day cards..." It simplifies it (in my opinion) and keeps the combo from being thematically diluted by The Long Day and possibly other cards in the future, especially in T2 where you can have 4 The Long Days.

Anyway, I really like these cards.

I like that idea. I've added it to the new versions of the 3rd and 7th days, but you'll just have to imagine it on the others. ;)
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Re: Days o' Creation
« Reply #15 on: December 10, 2016, 01:22:11 AM »
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Nitpick: Day of Creation in The Seventh Day's special ability shouldn't be in quotes, identifiers never are.

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Re: Days o' Creation
« Reply #16 on: December 11, 2016, 07:46:30 PM »
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Nitpick: Day of Creation in The Seventh Day's special ability shouldn't be in quotes, identifiers never are.

Of course they aren't :P. Well, I guess you'll just have to imagine that it's right.
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Re: Days o' Creation
« Reply #17 on: January 10, 2017, 11:03:01 AM »
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I didn't see this thread til today, and I have one comment.  The Third Day needs redone somehow.  A flexible negate that is CBP and can be used by 5 FBTN heroes (including 3 in the Nats T1 winner) is probably too strong, especially with Coliseum.  That's not even considering the potential D3.

TSA and Captain are strong enough, despite the fact that they've never had access to a CBP or CBN negate to back them up   :P
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Re: Days o' Creation
« Reply #18 on: January 10, 2017, 06:28:28 PM »
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I didn't see this thread til today, and I have one comment.  The Third Day needs redone somehow.  A flexible negate that is CBP and can be used by 5 FBTN heroes (including 3 in the Nats T1 winner) is probably too strong, especially with Coliseum.  That's not even considering the potential D3.

TSA and Captain are strong enough, despite the fact that they've never had access to a CBP or CBN negate to back them up   :P

Well it didn't seem to be a problem with anyone else. :P

The problem would be solved if CBP was CBI. Just imagine that instead of CBP.
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Re: Days o' Creation
« Reply #19 on: January 18, 2017, 08:52:31 AM »
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First day shows landmasses already present. Heresy!
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Re: Days o' Creation
« Reply #20 on: January 22, 2017, 08:55:33 AM »
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First day shows landmasses already present. Heresy!
In the first verse it says in the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
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Re: Days o' Creation
« Reply #21 on: January 22, 2017, 09:17:40 AM »
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I appreciate the time you took to create these beautiful samples. They're cool.

 


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