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Well for one Demon's can't be warrior class.

Quote from: CJSports on May 24, 2013, 08:47:26 PM

Well for one Demon's can't be warrior class.

Admiral and Morg beg to differ. I think the big thing is that there isn't really any good biblical support for demons using weapons (except the Horsemen of the Apocalypse, assuming they are indeed demons, but since Death and Hades is a demon, I'd assume the others would be too)

I don't see any issue biblically with demonic weapons.  We know that weapons are used by angels, and as fallen angels, it follows that demons would also be assumed to be using weapons.  We also know that there are physical confrontations described, particularly in Daniel, and that there have been and will be wars of angels and demons.  WC demons should have no problem with the bible.

On the card, I disagree with part of the concept.  Jesus specifically said that the idea that Beelzebub would cast out demons is wrong, and that is the whole point about a divided house.  He was saying that demons do not war with each other, but with God, his angels, and his followers.  I like the bottom deck drawing, that's a fun ability, but I would hesitate to have him discard demons or removing evil characters due to the nature of the verse.

Ok, here's Beelzebub 2.0. What does everyone think?

I like the improvements on the remaining abilities, though I think you could have kept at least the "discard a demon to discard an EC" part.

Sorry my bad, Orange Demons are not allowed to be warrior class. That is just how Rob designed it. It's not anything biblical it was just card production so my bad for not clarifying.

Here's my concept for a possession card. Possession works like poisoning; Heroes that are possessed lose at least 2/2 each turn.

The current wording on Possessing Demon requires your opponent to do the discarding/revealing, and only at the moment that it is put on the card.  You would need to put on there that opponent may do one of those to discard it to have it work like similar cards.

For possession, when you possess a character, I believe that the demon that is doing the possessing should also "band" to the possessed character, meaning they would both be together on the same side of the battle each time that demon enters battle.  I say "band" because it wouldn't be banding, but possessing, but they would both still be in battle while possessed and they could not enter battle independently (to bring one character into battle, ignore one character, or discard one of the possessed characters would be to stop them both from entering battle/discard them both).  If it is your opponent's character you are possession, you would take permanent control of that character until they are discarded or the possession is negated/undone.  A demon could only possess one character at a time.  Depending on what we want to do with this ability, if you wanted to allow for the possession of heroes, then you could convert the hero to an evil character until they were no longer possessed.  You could still have the decrease as part of possession, but I don't think it would be entirely necessary.  I think this would be a cool new mechanic for the game.

For possession, when you possess a character, I believe that the demon that is doing the possessing should also "band" to the possessed character, meaning they would both be together on the same side of the battle each time that demon enters battle.  I say "band" because it wouldn't be banding, but possessing, but they would both still be in battle while possessed and they could not enter battle independently (to bring one character into battle, ignore one character, or discard one of the possessed characters would be to stop them both from entering battle/discard them both).  If it is your opponent's character you are possession, you would take permanent control of that character until they are discarded or the possession is negated/undone.  A demon could only possess one character at a time.  Depending on what we want to do with this ability, if you wanted to allow for the possession of heroes, then you could convert the hero to an evil character until they were no longer possessed.  You could still have the decrease as part of possession, but I don't think it would be entirely necessary.  I think this would be a cool new mechanic for the game.

I had an idea similar to this when I first saw possessing demon had no SA.