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Re: Saul/Paul Reprint
« Reply #75 on: April 03, 2011, 12:30:25 AM »
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Hero -> EC, SA is lost
EC -> Hero, SA is kept, unless it harms a hero, or allows you to play an evil enhancement.
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Re: Saul/Paul Reprint
« Reply #76 on: April 03, 2011, 04:45:04 AM »
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I don't see that in my rulebook.
They seem pretty lame as fighters maybe we should challenge them to a dance off or a redemption game

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Re: Saul/Paul Reprint
« Reply #77 on: April 03, 2011, 11:56:28 AM »
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Ask any elder, post it on the Ruling Questions board.  That's how it's played.
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Re: Saul/Paul Reprint
« Reply #78 on: April 03, 2011, 02:35:58 PM »
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I don't see that in my rulebook.

It's in the REG. The rulebook is not the sole source of information for Redemption. In fact, the rulebook is mostly designed for new players which is why it is included in the starter decks. Most experienced players consult the REG or the boards for the complexities of the game.
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Re: Saul/Paul Reprint
« Reply #79 on: April 03, 2011, 05:41:20 PM »
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That's not what I've heard from others... But then again, most people don't convert Heroes...
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Re: Saul/Paul Reprint
« Reply #80 on: April 03, 2011, 05:47:37 PM »
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That's not what I've heard from others...

Those "others" are wrong. The REG has been very clear about converted heroes for quite some time. The rules for converted ECS needed to be reworked a couple years ago, but it has not changed since.

From the REG:

Instant Special Abilities > Convert > Default Conditions

     If a Hero is converted to an Evil Character, it’s special ability does not work.  If that Evil Character is later converted back to a Hero, it’s special ability works again.

•      If an Evil Character is converted to a Hero, it’s special ability works as long as it does not harm Heroes (e.g., the special ability of Otho does not work as a Hero because it would be discarding himself, a Hero). Game rules are still operative (e.g., Heroes may not use evil enhancements or band to Evil Characters).
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Re: Saul/Paul Reprint
« Reply #81 on: April 03, 2011, 07:22:32 PM »
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Actually that's even a little out of date. The SA on a Converted EC will work in every case except when it targets (not harms) a Hero. Since a Hero can never harm a Hero, that definition had to be updated.
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Re: Saul/Paul Reprint
« Reply #82 on: April 03, 2011, 07:34:56 PM »
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Actually that's even a little out of date. The SA on a Converted EC will work in every case except when it targets (not harms) a Hero. Since a Hero can never harm a Hero, that definition had to be updated.

That's what I meant in my first sentence, but thanks for the clarity.  ;D
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Re: Saul/Paul Reprint
« Reply #83 on: April 04, 2011, 03:39:51 AM »
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Okay.
They seem pretty lame as fighters maybe we should challenge them to a dance off or a redemption game

 


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