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OP.

It may not be an auto-block anymore, but it's still more OP than the current version.

Right now it may be an autoblock, but at least you can try to negate any enhancements played on it. This thing essentially makes all evil enhancements CBN.

How about this:

Search discard for HHI. If opponent drew 4 or more cards this turn protect this card from opponent's abilities. Cannot  be negated.

It's still VERY powerful, but no longer guaranteed. To make up for this, I reduced the draw requirement to 4 so that any draw ability will trigger it.

Who cares if the evil enhancements on her are CBN.  She is protecting opponents territory keeping her from doing anything serious.

And keeping the opponent from playing anything?  That's OP.  Stopping players from even having a battle phase is not a good idea, and it is indeed OP.

Autoblocks aren't bad for the game compared to auto rescues.

FBTN and FBTNB could still have some level of success against her.

Not very much, honestly, when she can still play enhancements (and has access to any number of CBN/CBP cards).

@redoubter it's not much of a battle phase to pass and give up an auto block either.

Being able to make something of the battle is actually something still.  I can blow up your protect fortress that is stopping my out-of-battle means of killing her, for example.  Also, I can still have a battle phase with the current card.  Taking away the battle phase completely from one player, especially when it is only one player, is not good for the game.

I know how to fix Foreign Wives. Don't draw.

That means whoever gets wives out of their deck early wins the game. It gives one person speed. Wives doesn't help the game it only hurts it

The bottem line is FW is way Op'd and will be played in every comoetitve deck. If you add an extra cost to her getting blocks that isn't a bad thing. This version requires more cards to get the block.

I can't believe this many people are actually supporting this card.

FW is the kind of card that breaks the game based on power creep.

Why don't you kill the stupid witch in territory. FW is not a permanant roadblock.

Fortify Site.

Quote from: Red on June 12, 2013, 12:15:53 AM

Why don't you kill the stupid witch in territory. FW is not a permanant roadblock.

You can protect her under Pharaoh's Throne Room or in Tower of Thebez.

Tower isn't the best protection for her (since she pops back to territory for them to kill her during the remainder of their turn).  Throne room's pretty good.   Both of those can be taken out though.  With Fortify Site, not a single card in the game can touch her (I thought that stone did, but the character has to be in battle).

Lambo nailed it. There are also some pretty effective speed counters in the promos that didn't see print. I hope that Rob finds a way to print those soon!

Quote from: Gabe on June 12, 2013, 11:31:13 AM

Lambo nailed it. There are also some pretty effective speed counters in the promos that didn't see print. I hope that Rob finds a way to print those soon!

Having a card so strong that everyone starts deck building with SoG NJ FW lets me know we have made a huge mistake

Since when did everyone play NJ (or SoG) in every deck? I, for one, do not always play them and have won regional and below tournaments without one or both and placed at nationals more than once.

Kirk

Golden Cherubim and FW are terrific cards and can never be OP because they react to something your opponent does. If your opponent never meets the condition (draw a card or two) then the cards don't do much.

Cards like TGT, on the other hand, are fair to classify as OP because they are proactive.

Nothing OP with FW.

Kirk