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Title: A few Silver Revelation Cards
Post by: Lamborghini_diablo on September 28, 2010, 06:45:48 PM
Army of God
9/3 Silver WC Hero

Reveal the top card of your deck. If it is a Hero, you may add it to battle. May band to Army of God.

Identifiers: Generic, Genderless, Angel, May include 4 copies per 50 cards in deck

"And the armies [which were] in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean." Revelation 19:14

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(Unsure about a name)

*/1 Silver Hero

Good banding abilities cannot be negated by evil cards. May band to an angel.

Identifiers: Generic, Angel, * = # of angels in battle.

(unsure about a verse)

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Heavenly Thrones

Good Silver Enhancement

Take all human heroes that were discarded by an opponent out of your discard pile and return them to play. Convert all heroes returned to silver brigade and protect them from discard. Cannot be Negated.

And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and [I saw] the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus ... and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. Revelation 20:4


(Note on this one)
Converting to silver does not mean they become angels.

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Opening of Heaven

Territory Class Silver Enhancement

Search your deck or discard pile for all copies of Army of God and put them in play.

And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him [was] called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. Revelation 19:11

Title: Re: A few Silver Revelation Cards
Post by: Lamborghini_diablo on September 28, 2010, 06:52:02 PM
I debated that one. I can change it if the general consensus is that it should be genderless.
Title: Re: A few Silver Revelation Cards
Post by: browarod on September 28, 2010, 06:52:34 PM
I debated that one. I can change it if the general consensus is that it should be genderless.
Sounds good.

EDIT: My original post vanished....Um, I said that Army of God should be genderless, so that's what Lambo replied to.
Title: Re: A few Silver Revelation Cards
Post by: Nameless on September 28, 2010, 06:54:46 PM
I debated that one. I can change it if the general consensus is that it should be genderless.
Sounds good

EDIT: My original post vanished....Um, I said that Army of God should be genderless, so that's what Lambo replied to.
i think so to
Title: Re: A few Silver Revelation Cards
Post by: Lamborghini_diablo on September 28, 2010, 06:55:48 PM
Updated. What do you think of the rest?
Title: Re: A few Silver Revelation Cards
Post by: browarod on September 28, 2010, 07:00:25 PM
Heavenly Thrones needs a timeframe on the protection. I'm assuming you meant while they remain in play, but I think all cards specify that. I like the idea, though it may be a bit OP. It's like Chariot of Fire mixed with Everlasting Beings plus a mini Gold Shield. :P

I like that Army of God is like the good version of Legion. I've been wondering why they don't have something like this already.

The nameless one could be interesting. If you get a nice AoG band with him in there and a CotH to top it off, that would be quite the imposing force. ^_^
Title: Re: A few Silver Revelation Cards
Post by: Lamborghini_diablo on September 28, 2010, 07:03:28 PM
Well, its hard to abuse it quickly, because they have to be killed by an opponent. However, Silver should have a theme of being hard to kill, and it does fit the source material of being best used at the END. Plus, it does fit in with the idea of silver working well as a support theme.

Army of God was inspired by the lack of generic self-banding heroes. Demons can band to each other like CRAZY and are almost all generic, why don't heroes get anything like this?
Title: Re: A few Silver Revelation Cards
Post by: Master_Chi on September 28, 2010, 07:54:27 PM
I like. Silver needs some good banding stuff since Angels are t3h b0ss0rz. Plus, there's a boatload of them, so.... Yuh.
Title: Re: A few Silver Revelation Cards
Post by: Lamborghini_diablo on September 28, 2010, 09:18:54 PM
Heres the first one:

(https://www.cactusforums.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi189.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fz18%2FLambo_Diablo_Svtt%2FArmy-of-God.jpg&hash=60e50e3512fbd5be06c428070096a7312e5ee2d3)

I'll work on the rest when I have time.
Title: Re: A few Silver Revelation Cards
Post by: Minister Polarius on September 28, 2010, 11:04:25 PM
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Army of God
9/3 Silver WC Hero

Reveal the top card of your deck. If it is a Hero, you may add it to battle. May band to Army of God.

Identifiers: Generic, Genderless, Angel, May include 4 copies per 50 cards in deck

"And the armies [which were] in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean." Revelation 19:14
Angels and Demons default to Male unless otherwise specified. I also think Heavenly Host or something to that effect would have a nicer ring to it. Other than that, it's solid.

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*/1 Silver Hero

Good banding abilities cannot be negated by evil cards. May band to an angel.

Identifiers: Generic, Angel, * = # of angels in battle.
No. CBN banding chains are WAY op, and if you had this guy and a few armies, that's basically only stopped by Wrath of Satan.


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Heavenly Thrones

Good Silver Enhancement

Take all human heroes that were discarded by an opponent out of your discard pile and return them to play. Convert all heroes returned to silver brigade and protect them from discard. Cannot be Negated.

And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and [I saw] the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus ... and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. Revelation 20:4
"Return all Human Heroes that were Discarded by an Opponent from Discard Pile to play and convert to Silver. Those Heroes are Protected from Discard (this turn? while they remain in play?)." The CBN is too much, maybe CBP so TSA and Captain can use it, and as a trade off give it some offense.

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Opening of Heaven

Territory Class Silver Enhancement

Search your deck or discard pile for all copies of Army of God and put them in play.

And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him [was] called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. Revelation 19:11
I'd love it if the OP CBN Banding angel didn't exist.
Title: Re: A few Silver Revelation Cards
Post by: Rawrlolsauce! on September 28, 2010, 11:10:58 PM
Gather a TSA.... or a Cap if you change the second one.
EDIT: Says evil, so its gotta be Cap. I fail.
Title: Re: A few Silver Revelation Cards
Post by: Master_Chi on September 29, 2010, 09:34:21 AM
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*/1 Silver Hero

Good banding abilities cannot be negated by evil cards. May band to an angel.

Identifiers: Generic, Angel, * = # of angels in battle.
No. CBN banding chains are WAY op, and if you had this guy and a few armies, that's basically only stopped by Wrath of Satan.

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Opening of Heaven

Territory Class Silver Enhancement

Search your deck or discard pile for all copies of Army of God and put them in play.

And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him [was] called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. Revelation 19:11
I'd love it if the OP CBN Banding angel didn't exist.

Stop your whining. Angels need some CBN banding, since nobody can really touch Angels in real life.
Title: Re: A few Silver Revelation Cards
Post by: SomeKittens on September 29, 2010, 02:49:43 PM
Army of God/Opening of Heaven would be great, but I dunno about combining that with the CBN banding Angel.  That gets a little too crazy for my tastes.
I like Heavenly Thrones.  There's potential for abuse, but it's entertaining.  I'd take off the protect from discard/CBN, it's still pretty useful.
Title: Re: A few Silver Revelation Cards
Post by: Lamborghini_diablo on September 29, 2010, 04:38:00 PM
Perhaps for the */1 angel...

Good banding abilities on Angels cannot be negated by evil cards. May band to a generic angel.

Better?
Title: Re: A few Silver Revelation Cards
Post by: Minister Polarius on September 29, 2010, 11:54:21 PM
I'd maybe be ok with it being un-negatable by Evil Characters.
Title: Re: A few Silver Revelation Cards
Post by: Master_Chi on September 30, 2010, 10:26:25 AM
Perhaps for the */1 angel...

Good banding abilities on Angels cannot be negated by evil cards. May band to a generic angel.

Better?

To quote Calvin from Calvin and Hobbes: "A good compromise leaves everyone mad."

I suppose it's okay.
Title: Re: A few Silver Revelation Cards
Post by: SomeKittens on September 30, 2010, 12:26:03 PM
Stops the Jacob banding, and can't pull in most Angels.  Better.
Title: Re: A few Silver Revelation Cards
Post by: Minister Polarius on September 30, 2010, 01:54:18 PM
I think it would be better if it were not made. CBN banding is OP.
Title: Re: A few Silver Revelation Cards
Post by: Lamborghini_diablo on September 30, 2010, 03:19:10 PM
Demons have the orange PD, who makes ALL evil banding CBN... and is generic. I dont see people crying about him being OP.  :P
Title: Re: A few Silver Revelation Cards
Post by: Master_Chi on September 30, 2010, 06:37:17 PM
Demons have the orange PD, who makes ALL evil banding CBN... and is generic. I dont see people crying about him being OP.  :P

Double standards FTW.
Title: Re: A few Silver Revelation Cards
Post by: The M on September 30, 2010, 08:20:35 PM
Demons have the orange PD, who makes ALL evil banding CBN... and is generic. I dont see people crying about him being OP.  :P

Double standards FTW.
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Title: Re: A few Silver Revelation Cards
Post by: Minister Polarius on October 01, 2010, 12:10:58 AM
Demons have the orange PD, who makes ALL evil banding CBN... and is generic. I dont see people crying about him being OP.  :P
But he makes it CBI, not CBN, and he only bands to Panic Demons (who can't band outside their relatively-useless chain).
Title: Re: A few Silver Revelation Cards
Post by: Lamborghini_diablo on October 01, 2010, 12:27:17 AM
Demons have the orange PD, who makes ALL evil banding CBN... and is generic. I dont see people crying about him being OP.  :P
But he makes it CBI, not CBN, and he only bands to Panic Demons (who can't band outside their relatively-useless chain).

Check again:

(https://www.cactusforums.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.redemptionreg.com%2FREG%2FLinkedDocuments%2FPanic%2520Demon%2520%28P%29.gif&hash=ba20b227240b5704c6cc89175fc256fbffa44ed0)

And, Lurking + Gates work nicely with this dude.
Title: Re: A few Silver Revelation Cards
Post by: Minister Polarius on October 01, 2010, 12:33:28 AM
The fact remains, he has very limited banding to very unthreatening cards. GoH banding is un-negatable anyway and only works once, and Lurking is, again, only once. If the super-duper OP angel could only band to Army of God or itself I could maybe stomach it.
Title: Re: A few Silver Revelation Cards
Post by: Lamborghini_diablo on October 01, 2010, 12:34:49 AM
I just realized Orange PD - Black PD - Babel would be brutal.
Title: Re: A few Silver Revelation Cards
Post by: Master_Chi on October 04, 2010, 11:12:18 AM
I just realized Orange PD - Black PD - Babel would be brutal.

The problem would be getting initiative to play Babel...
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