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Bills T2 only local had about the same number of players as T2-2P did at Nationals! I will say that it's a little easier to do well when Justin isn't there to stomp you.
I think it's cool that the top 3 decks (Clift, Kirk, and Tyler) were all at the EC Regional tournament this year. So for all you guys out there who want a heads up on the top decks in T2 next year, remember to come to the EC Regional tournament
grapes of wrath does hurt the deck b/c its another dominant you have to get rid of.i remember at one time tyler would put glory of the lord in his deck on top of all of the others just so i couldnt take them all:)
Pot of Manna, whoever is willing to waste a card in a deck, go ahead... good luck gettin 1 in 100 up early enough... unless you want to waste 3...Wasting Diseases, eh... this one could pose a problem...More than 5 good Doms, hahaha. worthless doms don't do you any good outside of playing this deck. Glory and HT? worthless.jerusalem Tower, again, try to get it up...Rain becomes Dust, who uses speed in T2 other than this deck? a few draws maybe, but not speed.Gifts of the Magi (with another art like Lampstand up in the Temple, good luck putting all those cards up on top of my drawpile ) good luck getting 3 out of 100 cards... that fastCoM, I discard NJ. big deal.HHI, I think I saw a Cov. of David... maybe not.I think there is a covenant that I cant find now that stops heros from fighting heros and EC's from fighting EC's, that would stop Cup of Wrath. not that I know of. Pot of Manna... Gabriel/Hidden/Amasai if you're looking for it... and even then, it will be difficult.
The problem isn't that this deck can't be stopped... it's that if you don't draw one of the counters in the first 3-5 turns, gg sir.
Quote from: crustpope on August 04, 2009, 12:30:32 PMPot of Manna, whoever is willing to waste a card in a deck, go ahead... good luck gettin 1 in 100 up early enough... unless you want to waste 3...Wasting Diseases, eh... this one could pose a problem...More than 5 good Doms, hahaha. worthless doms don't do you any good outside of playing this deck. Glory and HT? worthless.jerusalem Tower, again, try to get it up...Rain becomes Dust, who uses speed in T2 other than this deck? a few draws maybe, but not speed.Gifts of the Magi (with another art like Lampstand up in the Temple, good luck putting all those cards up on top of my drawpile ) good luck getting 3 out of 100 cards... that fastCoM, I discard NJ. big deal.HHI, I think I saw a Cov. of David... maybe not.I think there is a covenant that I cant find now that stops heros from fighting heros and EC's from fighting EC's, that would stop Cup of Wrath. not that I know of. Pot of Manna... Gabriel/Hidden/Amasai if you're looking for it... and even then, it will be difficult.
The problem is that now will all the side battle cards you probably SHOULD consiter putting a few cups of manna (if not the entire POT) into each deck if you dont use side battles to do your thang. I hate the hand limit rule and hope if goes down in inglorious flames this season, but even so, I already have ideas how to make this deck viable without all the draws. And many of thes cards can still be used (and should be use) to counter this deck and many others.btw a good sitc deck does not use NJ or SoG to d/c CoM and HHI is a good art that should easily fit in most decks. HT is not a wasted Dom in type 2 ( you just have to play it before the battle begins) and if you inlude HHI, J-tower, I am mercy, Gifts and either Gabe/ammasai/Treasures depending upon y or deck you should have no porblem pulling one or multiple of the stops.Everyone acts like chiken little saying the sky is falling. It's just that you all havent been exposed to this deck. The more you play it, the more you will be able to beat it.
sure, there's lots of side battle cards... but I've seen very few in T2, other than this deck, and a few Sword of the Lords in a green deck. I won't put in Cup of Manna... if you can convince alot of others to, then congrats to you.
Quote from: Ring Wraith on August 06, 2009, 06:35:51 PMsure, there's lots of side battle cards... but I've seen very few in T2, other than this deck, and a few Sword of the Lords in a green deck. I won't put in Cup of Manna... if you can convince alot of others to, then congrats to you.I saw more side battle cards at Nats in T2 2P alone than most Redemption players have seen in their life. I might have had a fighting chance during one of my losses, as well as won a different game by a better margin, if I'd decided to include a couple copies of Pot of Manna.
Quote from: sk on August 06, 2009, 06:42:41 PMQuote from: Ring Wraith on August 06, 2009, 06:35:51 PMsure, there's lots of side battle cards... but I've seen very few in T2, other than this deck, and a few Sword of the Lords in a green deck. I won't put in Cup of Manna... if you can convince alot of others to, then congrats to you.I saw more side battle cards at Nats in T2 2P alone than most Redemption players have seen in their life. I might have had a fighting chance during one of my losses, as well as won a different game by a better margin, if I'd decided to include a couple copies of Pot of Manna.interesting. although, Nats was in Cali...
Wraith, gifts of the magi completely shuts this down. If you also have that many cards in your hand, words of discouragement does nothing to you.
Quote from: lightningninja on August 06, 2009, 09:08:04 PMWraith, gifts of the magi completely shuts this down. If you also have that many cards in your hand, words of discouragement does nothing to you.and what do you think they'll get to do with all those cards? you just end your turn, and do it next turn, when they have no deck.
Or DoN their GotM before you start playing enhancements in the evil side battle.
You cant. if they cant play dominants because your enhancement SA's have to complete, then you cant play dominants to stop them and that includes DoN. So they will jsut keep one of hte many Good Dom's they drew in their hand while you play 5 worthless WoD and then when they are done, even if they do DoN your Gifts, just make sure to put a Good Dom on top to reveal and place on bottom to scatter those SitC to the four corners of their discard pile.
It's really interesting that you're trying to enlighten me on how to play this deck.