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Re: 2009 T2-2P 1st Place
« Reply #50 on: July 31, 2009, 02:32:14 PM »
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I think what defines a great player starts with their conduct before, after, and during games, anything else is just gravy.

In that case, there is no way Justin should be considered a great player. You should see him after I beat him in anything...

Haha, just kidding bro.  ;)
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Re: 2009 T2-2P 1st Place
« Reply #51 on: July 31, 2009, 02:45:33 PM »
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In my younger, less mature days... ::)
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Re: 2009 T2-2P 1st Place
« Reply #52 on: July 31, 2009, 02:48:35 PM »
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I think what defines a great player starts with their conduct before, after, and during games, anything else is just gravy.
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Re: 2009 T2-2P 1st Place
« Reply #53 on: July 31, 2009, 02:51:30 PM »
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whats redemption about.......? Fun & Fellowship!

I fail to see how conduct before during and after matches is contrary to the Fun & Fellowship of Redemption?  I would think sportsmanship is the key to Fun & Fellowship.
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Re: 2009 T2-2P 1st Place
« Reply #54 on: July 31, 2009, 02:56:41 PM »
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I believe he was agreeing with your point.  :)
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Re: 2009 T2-2P 1st Place
« Reply #55 on: July 31, 2009, 03:00:19 PM »
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I believe he was agreeing with your point.  :)
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Re: 2009 T2-2P 1st Place
« Reply #56 on: July 31, 2009, 03:04:10 PM »
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Oh ... hehe ... my bad :)
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Re: 2009 T2-2P 1st Place
« Reply #57 on: July 31, 2009, 03:05:04 PM »
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Re: 2009 T2-2P 1st Place
« Reply #58 on: July 31, 2009, 04:50:03 PM »
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The deck is a lot of fun to play with, but probably not a lot of fun to play against.  My opponents were all very good sports though. :)

I will agree with this.  Clift beat me with (a similar) deck at nats in KC.  It was interesting watching the deck combo off but afterards, it was pretty boring
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Re: 2009 T2-2P 1st Place
« Reply #59 on: July 31, 2009, 06:55:07 PM »
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So you're saying a player or deck isn't great unless they win it all? Wow... show a little respect man...

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Re: 2009 T2-2P 1st Place
« Reply #60 on: July 31, 2009, 11:23:12 PM »
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Easy for Gabe to say. :)
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Re: 2009 T2-2P 1st Place
« Reply #61 on: August 02, 2009, 12:19:16 PM »
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This deck is really cool. I had seen it on the boards before and realized what was going to happen on turn 3. However, I couldn't do anything about it. After Gabe rescued he started playing Solitaire and I was watching. I had Angel of the Lord which I was hoping to use to wreck the side battle (he didn't have 2k Horses on a guy yet so he would need initiative). However, I played it on the wrong guy. Anyway, he got the soft-lock going by only playing 2 copies of sin in the camp + 2 copies of Words of Discouragement. The only card I ended up with in my hand was Son of God, hoping to reveal/put-it-underneath to discard the SitC's. The problem was that after I did this I couldn't rescue anything since I didn't have heroes or evil characters in the 6 cards I had put on top.

Anyway, I won't say the deck is broken because Tyler beat it. I also think that a decent offensive draw could beat this deck as well because the defense can't really block. However, I will say that this is the easiest combo that I've seen somebody use successfully and it isn't really stopped by the new cards so I would expect something to happen to weaken a deck like this.

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Re: 2009 T2-2P 1st Place
« Reply #62 on: August 02, 2009, 06:17:06 PM »
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Not stopped by the new cards?

Mayhem
Grapes of Wrath
Gates of Hell (you may have to discard a lot, but what can that offense do when you have about 20 generic demons who band each other?)
Philistine Outpost
New cards (territory class) that get rid of enhancements

Anywho, I was really hoping to get to play Gabe because my deck was a broken cisterns deck.  ;D
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Re: 2009 T2-2P 1st Place
« Reply #63 on: August 02, 2009, 09:49:43 PM »
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Not stopped by the new cards?

Mayhem - [/b] you have a point here.  A well plaed mayhem can cause..ahem.. mayhem[/b]

Grapes of Wrath - if you get initiative to play it.  A properly played SitC deck never gives you an opportunity to play this card

Gates of Hell (you may have to discard a lot, but what can that offense do when you have about 20 generic demons who band each other?) easy..it is called ET - AoCP.  bye bye demons.  And I have a version of SitC deck that uses Joshua the priest and Trumpet blast to clear a hole in those protection forts sooo, you block with your insane banding chain and I drop t-blast to shake the very gates of hell all the way to the d/c pile.

Philistine Outpost cant remember what this does

New cards (territory class) that get rid of enhancements this only works on a soft lock or if you have it already played before they place the SitC.  If not, then you will never get to play your pretty territory class enhancement cards

Anywho, I was really hoping to get to play Gabe because my deck was a broken cisterns deck.  ;D
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Re: 2009 T2-2P 1st Place
« Reply #64 on: August 02, 2009, 09:51:02 PM »
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P.O. gets a Philly from the discsard pile by discrding an evi lcard from the draw pile.

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Re: 2009 T2-2P 1st Place
« Reply #65 on: August 02, 2009, 10:20:45 PM »
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Ah, the twelve fingered Giant would cause some problems with this.  My deck also has the passover and unleavened bread So I would just take a turn and put him under the draw pile then.
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Re: 2009 T2-2P 1st Place
« Reply #66 on: August 02, 2009, 11:55:03 PM »
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And then I'd do it next turn.  ;D Philistine outpost can do that EVERY time you attack. Which means garrison too.

And one of those generic demons would be wandering demon. If my demons are discarded, they go to the bottom. Then I get them back with gates of hell. Also, how are you going to play trumpet blast when gates of hell is set aside?
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Re: 2009 T2-2P 1st Place
« Reply #67 on: August 03, 2009, 12:24:01 AM »
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is gated of hell set aside?  I havent seen t hat part of it yet then.
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Re: 2009 T2-2P 1st Place
« Reply #68 on: August 03, 2009, 12:24:21 AM »
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Yeah it is.

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Re: 2009 T2-2P 1st Place
« Reply #69 on: August 03, 2009, 01:04:22 AM »
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Congrats Gabe for the nats win!  :) Awesome job!!
Congrats Clift for the design!  :)
Clift, did you ever think that the deck you played in your house at SE regionals would find its way to Cali and get 1st? That is so cool!  :)
That deck is a beast, and if you don't know what's coming, you're toast, and if you do, it is still difficult if not impossible to stop.
Isn't it ironic Tyler beat it? :D

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Re: 2009 T2-2P 1st Place
« Reply #70 on: August 03, 2009, 01:06:41 AM »
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Isn't it ironic Tyler beat it? :D

With the deck Tyler was using, I don't see it as irony as much as he knew what he was doing since he has played the deck so many times.

Clift, I have one thing to say: Next time you offer to let me bring a deck to Nats and use it, I'm grabbing the deck out of your hands and leaving.  :D
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Re: 2009 T2-2P 1st Place
« Reply #71 on: August 03, 2009, 01:06:45 AM »
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Yeah, it was crazy it came down to Kirk. If Kirk hadn't beat Tyler, he would have swept the tournament with an undefeated record.
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Re: 2009 T2-2P 1st Place
« Reply #72 on: August 03, 2009, 01:11:36 AM »
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Isn't it ironic Tyler beat it? :D

With the deck Tyler was using, I don't see it as irony as much as he knew what he was doing since he has played the deck so many times.


Gotcha-that makes sense.

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Re: 2009 T2-2P 1st Place
« Reply #73 on: August 03, 2009, 02:45:33 AM »
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Yeah, it was crazy it came down to Kirk. If Kirk hadn't beat Tyler, he would have swept the tournament with an undefeated record.
I think it's cool that the top 3 decks (Clift, Kirk, and Tyler) were all at the EC Regional tournament this year.  So for all you guys out there who want a heads up on the top decks in T2 next year, remember to come to the EC Regional tournament :)

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Re: 2009 T2-2P 1st Place
« Reply #74 on: August 03, 2009, 02:53:14 AM »
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I think it's cool that the past two National Champions in T2 2P have been the players who won the MN Type 2 Only tournament that year (and 3 years ago it was the player who took 2nd that won Nationals). So for anyone who wants a shot at winning Nationals, make sure to get to the MN Type 2 only tournament this year, likely to be either in February or March.  :)
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