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Re: Nationals-Winning Deck: Genesis & Rome
« Reply #25 on: August 15, 2008, 07:25:57 PM »
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Hand discard is OP-ed. Heavy Taxes and Buying Grain need to be banned. Now.

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If I was to make one non-RoA change, I would say that you should find a way to fit in False Peace.
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Re: Nationals-Winning Deck: Genesis & Rome
« Reply #26 on: August 15, 2008, 08:21:59 PM »
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False Peace was in the deck originally, but I took it out because initiative was so hard to come by in most circumstances; when I did have it by NH&C I wanted to just end the battle there. I rarely had trouble drawing the right cards, as the deck is fairly fast as it is, and there is good versatility with what characters and enhancements I can use. It is also useless if I draw it late. Nothing in the deck seems like a worse choice than False Peace.
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Re: Nationals-Winning Deck: Genesis & Rome
« Reply #27 on: August 15, 2008, 10:53:10 PM »
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any reason whatsoever you mained shoes of peace over dove? i mean, they practically have the same abilities, the exact same special ability, and dove is genesis for searching and jacob abuse.
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Re: Nationals-Winning Deck: Genesis & Rome
« Reply #28 on: August 15, 2008, 11:21:40 PM »
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Not for sure, but I believe that Shoes of Peace is the one card that can be played on Angel at Shur.

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Re: Nationals-Winning Deck: Genesis & Rome
« Reply #29 on: August 16, 2008, 09:19:10 AM »
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Ben is absolutely right. Namaan sometimes gets converted too, and he can play Shoes of Peace as well.
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Re: Nationals-Winning Deck: Genesis & Rome
« Reply #30 on: August 16, 2008, 03:56:39 PM »
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right, but i can see those as very rare situations that would not win rescue attempts. dove seems to me to be the far better choice, because its a blue genesis cad.
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Re: Nationals-Winning Deck: Genesis & Rome
« Reply #31 on: August 16, 2008, 10:07:24 PM »
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some situations regarding shoes of peace:

Ra angel at shur they think itz just splash "as I would" they block with Sapphira Tim plays shoes of peace

Ra angel at shur block jobs wife plays lying unto God Tim plays shoes of peace

Ra angel at shur blocks job's wife plays ballam's disobedience time plays shoes of peace

theres plenty more:

red dragon/ lying unto God

Foul spirit/lying unto God

benefits of Shoes of peace>benefits of dove imo

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" Since my loss to this deck i have made this offence and i made a few changes one of them being the addition of Gaberiel, i know he is not Genesis but imo he is just begging to be in this deck"
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Re: Nationals-Winning Deck: Genesis & Rome
« Reply #32 on: August 17, 2008, 09:20:37 AM »
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Ben's got the right idea. Usually if I can play something Blue, I've got something better I can do. Shoes of Peace allows for playing on any character, even in a sneak attack with Angel at Shur.
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Re: Nationals-Winning Deck: Genesis & Rome
« Reply #33 on: August 18, 2008, 04:31:56 PM »
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Tim,
If I could suggest one non RoA change, where is the Buckler dominant?

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Re: Nationals-Winning Deck: Genesis & Rome
« Reply #34 on: August 18, 2008, 04:58:54 PM »
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How about this? ;) (change the < to [, but this is what the HTML looks like: <img>http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v242/timmierz/BucklerPromo.jpg</img>)


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Re: Nationals-Winning Deck: Genesis & Rome
« Reply #35 on: August 19, 2008, 12:10:36 AM »
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Now all you have to do is splash in Adam...
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Re: Nationals-Winning Deck: Genesis & Rome
« Reply #36 on: August 19, 2008, 12:04:15 PM »
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No, it already works great when Naaman is defeated and converts himself!

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Re: Nationals-Winning Deck: Genesis & Rome
« Reply #37 on: August 19, 2008, 01:29:19 PM »
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Now all you have to do is splash in Adam...

And Eve, and put in Gold Shield, and Scarlet Line.

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Re: Nationals-Winning Deck: Genesis & Rome
« Reply #38 on: August 19, 2008, 08:29:38 PM »
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How about this? ;) (change the < to [, but this is what the HTML looks like: <img>http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v242/timmierz/BucklerPromo.jpg</img>)



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Re: Nationals-Winning Deck: Genesis & Rome
« Reply #39 on: August 19, 2008, 09:16:26 PM »
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WORTHLESS? are you crazy?

Mhh..... aint got no respect for the bucker.... so sad.....

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Re: Nationals-Winning Deck: Genesis & Rome
« Reply #40 on: August 19, 2008, 09:50:19 PM »
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Nice deck Tim. It doesn't look like it could win a National tournament on paper but it;s one of those awsome decks. Nice to See solid color's winning a National Tournament too.

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Re: Nationals-Winning Deck: Genesis & Rome
« Reply #41 on: August 19, 2008, 10:14:08 PM »
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My buckler slap deck says buckler rules.
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Re: Nationals-Winning Deck: Genesis & Rome
« Reply #42 on: August 19, 2008, 10:14:49 PM »
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Do not mock the buckler of death. >:(
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Re: Nationals-Winning Deck: Genesis & Rome
« Reply #43 on: August 20, 2008, 08:35:54 AM »
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y didnt u use gabe? he seems to be begging to be in hear.
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Re: Nationals-Winning Deck: Genesis & Rome
« Reply #44 on: August 20, 2008, 08:51:58 AM »
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He makes Zebulun harder to use, has few enhancements to play on him, and doesn't fit with the themes of hand-discarding and Genesis.
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Re: T1 2P Nationals-Winning Deck: Genesis & Rome
« Reply #45 on: October 10, 2008, 11:04:22 PM »
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Alright, so, what is the secret I'm missing with Ahithophel?
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Re: T1 2P Nationals-Winning Deck: Genesis & Rome
« Reply #46 on: October 10, 2008, 11:18:20 PM »
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He's a little guy for inish and he's not royalty for Kind David.

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Re: T1 2P Nationals-Winning Deck: Genesis & Rome
« Reply #47 on: October 11, 2008, 07:10:58 AM »
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Is that all? What's the difference between Ahithophel and a Pharisee, then?
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Re: T1 2P Nationals-Winning Deck: Genesis & Rome
« Reply #48 on: October 11, 2008, 08:28:22 AM »
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Also, Why didn't you use Dove instead of Shoes of Peace.
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Re: T1 2P Nationals-Winning Deck: Genesis & Rome
« Reply #49 on: October 11, 2008, 11:26:45 AM »
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The Dove/Shoes of Peace thing is explained earlier in the thread; it was more worthwhile to have a multicolor enhancement than another Genesis enhancement.

Ahithophel is unique, in case I want to use Namaan's Chariot and Horses on him in a bad time. Ahithophel was also a common target for my Obedience, and the less defense there, the better. He has the lowest defense of any non-royal gray EC (tied with Sabbath Breaker). It's also rarer to see Absalom and friends than to see Pharisees, so I didn't have to worry about choosing him as a blocker and seeing a Saul come join the frenzy or something.
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