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So it's old school Redemption (Original-era) but with a bigger deck size. Why the T2 size minimum?

I could see mass banding being popular, if not the only way to win, in this style.

Will it have t2 deck building limits? I also fear for AOC/P before battle.

This would be really interesting to play.

I am always a fan of new ways to play. This sounds interesting to me and would allow a larger variety of cards to see play. Foreign Spearman would be more viable in this play style as well with lots of enhancements to toss.

Do you really need to cut forts and arts to make the concept work?

Quote from: TheKarazyvicePresidentRR on November 02, 2013, 02:46:33 PM

Will it have t2 deck building limits? I also fear for AOC/P before battle.

He said "type 1 deck building with t2 deck size minimum" which I take to mean as using T1 restrictions on number of cards per deck, etc., but requiring a minimum of 100 cards in the deck. Might be easier to say it that way than even bringing T2 into it, lol.

Well, I assume that if you're using the T2 minimum that the T2 maximum would also be used so perhaps that's why it was worded such, however, I still would've said T1 deck-building but between 100-252 cards. Anyway, back too the main idea...

I've considered trying something similar to this before--a limited play with only characters enhancements and should although I haven't really thought about using a larger deck size. I think that would be pretty interesting and allow the game to possibly go on a little longer and be a bit more action-packed.

I have always been in favor of banning NJ. Without NJ, we would probably see a lot of balanced deck archetypes.

I think something like this could be fun for a T1 game that is "battle-oriented"

1 Good dom
1 Evil dom

1 Good Fort
1 Evil Fort

1 Art
1 Site

1 Covenant
1 Curse

Assuming a 50-56 card deck, that's between 35-41 character/enhancements.

Why not type 3?

Because there's already an unofficial Type 3 variant, and looking back through this board, jmhartz posted a Type 4 before this one.  Hence Type 5.

Also, there's only 5 card types allowed in a deck in this structure - Heroes, good enhancements, EC's, evil enhancements, and Lost Souls.

I like the idea of a category that's more centered on the battle phase, but I would make a couple tweaks to this particular idea. First, I think 100 card singleton is more likely to drag on and be unfun than anything else. While 50 cards might be too small, 100 is a huge reversal, which will result in a lot of really boring cards ending up in decks. I think a medium of 70 is better. Large enough that a player is forced to abandon the usual CBN/CBI/CBP battlewinners and characters, but small enough that it's not just a battle of the numbers. The second change I would make is to restrict playing enhancements outside of battle. If you want to emphasize the battle phase, this is important, as most of the out-of-battle stuff spread OT offenses have access to is in the form of TC enhancements, not forts, sites, or artifacts. Even so, this will pretty quickly be dominated by FBTNB/The Deck hybrids.

Another thing to consider is that speed would also rule a battle phase-oriented game as the player with more cards in hand is inherently going to have an advantage as he will have many more options in battle.

covenants and curses would be allowed if you intend to use them AS ENHANCEMENTS so technically rain becomes dust would still effect speed