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Offline Korunks

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Type 3
« on: April 09, 2012, 06:34:20 PM »
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This came up in another thread, So I am condensing what I remember of the basic premise:

Type 1 Deck building rules with the following additions:

1. Must have the same number of Good and Evil cards in a deck.
2. Deck must be exactly 60 cards.
3. Game is won at 6 lost souls.

Thoughts?  I am very interested in trying this at my tournament locally.
« Last Edit: April 18, 2012, 08:54:42 AM by Korunks »
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Re: Type 1.5
« Reply #1 on: April 09, 2012, 06:35:22 PM »
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I'd be willing to try this out at one of the tournaments. Maybe we could register a tournament as a T12P local (on top of the regular categories we have) and play by these rules?

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Re: Type 1.5
« Reply #2 on: April 09, 2012, 06:36:27 PM »
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I would say you should make the minimum deck size 70.  Other than that I like it. 
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Re: Type 1.5
« Reply #3 on: April 09, 2012, 07:19:09 PM »
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I would say you should make the minimum deck size 70.  Other than that I like it.
 

I think 70 is a little too big, trying to keep the shuffling more manageable ;)
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Re: Type 1.5
« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2012, 09:20:26 PM »
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I think that requiring the deck to be exactly 60 cards would be nice, in addition to your other stipulations. 
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Re: Type 1.5
« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2012, 10:06:23 PM »
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What I heard was that it qualifies for both T1 and T2 by having 100 cards and follows T1 deck rules

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Re: Type 1.5
« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2012, 10:33:37 PM »
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I think that requiring the deck to be exactly 60 cards would be nice, in addition to your other stipulations.

I actually really like this idea myself.  I'll make a deck to try out soon.

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Re: Type 1.5
« Reply #7 on: April 10, 2012, 11:20:58 PM »
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What I heard was that it qualifies for both T1 and T2 by having 100 cards and follows T1 deck rules
This was the first Type 1.5 deck that I heard about, and was created by a guy named Rick Majus I think down in the South Florida playgroup.  Apparently he had quite a bit of success with it down there.

However, I also like the idea of a 60 card minimum with a requirement of 6 LS for victory.  I just wouldn't call it Type 1.5.

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Re: Type 1.5
« Reply #8 on: April 10, 2012, 11:29:54 PM »
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What I heard was that it qualifies for both T1 and T2 by having 100 cards and follows T1 deck rules
This was the first Type 1.5 deck that I heard about, and was created by a guy named Jonathan Majus I think down in the South Florida playgroup.  Apparently he had quite a bit of success with it down there.

However, I also like the idea of a 60 card minimum with a requirement of 6 LS for victory.  I just wouldn't call it Type 1.5.
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Re: Type 1.5
« Reply #9 on: April 11, 2012, 12:49:17 AM »
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Calling it T 1.5 would probably be fine since most people have never heard of the first version. However, calling it Standard Type or something with more of a catchy name may be better anyway.

I'd love the idea if it were, as suggested, exactly 60 cards rather than minimum 60 cards.
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Re: Type 1.5
« Reply #10 on: April 11, 2012, 01:33:41 PM »
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Hrmm we can banter about the name later, I suppose. I chose 1.5 because it is halfway between Type 1 and Type 2 no?  Regardless, A select group of us are testing this out in  our weekly playgroup meeting and will see how it shakes out.  If any of them see this before we get together lets try to keep it at 60 exactly, I like the idea of a standard format. :)
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Re: Type 1.5
« Reply #11 on: April 11, 2012, 01:44:33 PM »
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In that case I would suggest calling it T60 :)

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Re: Type 1.5
« Reply #12 on: April 11, 2012, 01:46:26 PM »
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If any of them see this before we get together lets try to keep it at 60 exactly, I like the idea of a standard format. :)

Already done.  Let's see how this goes.

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Re: Type 1.5
« Reply #13 on: April 13, 2012, 08:23:35 PM »
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If I bring my deck up to 60, it works in this. is that sad?

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Re: Type 1.5
« Reply #14 on: April 13, 2012, 08:52:42 PM »
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Making a deck with 60 cards and 6 lost souls would be cool...I don't get the part about having the same # of good and evil cards though.
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Re: Type 1.5
« Reply #15 on: April 13, 2012, 08:55:27 PM »
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Making a deck with 60 cards and 6 lost souls would be cool...I don't get the part about having the same # of good and evil cards though.

its a deck-building requirement borrowed from type II being used in this variation in order to combat the prevalence of expanding offense sizes in type I.  Since the deck must have equal good and evil card numbers, people are forced to actually play defense.
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Re: Type 1.5
« Reply #16 on: April 13, 2012, 09:32:42 PM »
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If I bring my deck up to 60, it works in this. is that sad?

No, that means that you actually play defense, which I always like :)

And yes, the balanced aspect requires you to not just overload your deck with powerful offense in the hope of out-drawing and out-lucking your opponent.  I played my polished deck brought up to 1.5 vs another polished deck brought up to 1.5 and we had a battle phase almost every turn, resulting more interaction and a lot more fun.

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Re: Type 1.5
« Reply #17 on: April 14, 2012, 09:16:56 PM »
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And yes, the balanced aspect requires you to not just overload your deck with powerful offense in the hope of out-drawing and out-lucking your opponent.  I played my polished deck brought up to 1.5 vs another polished deck brought up to 1.5 and we had a battle phase almost every turn, resulting more interaction and a lot more fun.

What a game that was!  So far I am really enjoying this variation.  Our game went till we decked but in the end was still (barely) under an hour, not bad.
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Re: Type 1.5
« Reply #18 on: April 14, 2012, 09:19:36 PM »
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What a game that was!  So far I am really enjoying this variation.  Our game went till we decked but in the end was still (barely) under an hour, not bad.

Yeah, but that was also because of our deck types.  The other 1.5 game ended way faster than ours.  I think ours was about as long as you can take a game of this type, which is a good thing :)

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Re: Type 1.5
« Reply #19 on: April 15, 2012, 05:28:07 PM »
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I'm very excited about this the more I think of it. It has the best of all worlds. Making it exactly 60 cards stops it from being a deckingfest or race for doms, but also prevents the sluggish and boring turtle games which are the converse and no less problematic to T1.
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Re: Type 1.5
« Reply #20 on: April 15, 2012, 06:29:17 PM »
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Hey if anyone is interested, I'd be happy to run an unofficial online tournament to test out this type.
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Re: Type 1.5
« Reply #21 on: April 15, 2012, 06:35:33 PM »
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I am.
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Re: Type 1.5
« Reply #22 on: April 17, 2012, 04:16:18 PM »
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I am really enjoying this variation, I have played several IRL games with this variant and the games are very interesting.  It is hard to adjust to getting stopped on offense often.  The games have been more complex, battles more robust, and I have yet to win 6-0 and I have often won 5-0 in T1 ,So far so good.  We really need to test this in multiplayer more but I am pleased with the results so far.  I will probably be running this as an unofficial category at one of my next tournaments, just not sure which one yet.
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Re: Type 3
« Reply #23 on: April 18, 2012, 08:55:21 AM »
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Updated the initial Post and changed the name, any objections to Type 3?
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Re: Type 3
« Reply #24 on: April 18, 2012, 10:00:18 AM »
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Updated the initial Post and changed the name, any objections to Type 3?

No way! No objections whatsoever. I am pretty sure you saw my thread, because i remember starting one not too long ago. Anyway, lets do it. Perhaps you should make a new thread for results from what people saw from palying type 3.

 


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