Author Topic: Type 1-2 Player Unofficial Banlist (Read 87111 times)

Alex_Olijar · « **Reply #200 on:** August 16, 2011, 04:52:47 PM »

Quote from: Minister Polarius on August 16, 2011, 04:51:38 PM

Something will probably have to be done about Genesis. TB was becoming uber-centralized to Genesis even before the new set sent it through the roof.

Yeah. We should probably ban like... Zeb for sure. Probably another hero... maybe Benjamin or Joseph. Genesis was really good before and everything they got is really playable.

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #201 on:** August 23, 2011, 08:24:10 PM »

I nominate Mayhem, New Jerusalem, and Lost Souls.

Warrior_Monk · « **Reply #202 on:** August 24, 2011, 12:01:56 AM »

I nominate that you erase all errata's that were given for the purpose of toning down a card and ban that card. They've been using errata as a way to get around banning, so you might as well ban them instead of keeping an errata. Sorry, ANB.

Arch Angel · « **Reply #203 on:** August 24, 2011, 12:11:00 AM »

Quote from: Minister Polarius on August 23, 2011, 08:24:10 PM

I nominate Mayhem, New Jerusalem, and Lost Souls.

I second this, and add Falling Away.

I'd also like to put Joseph on the suspect list. It's too early for me to want him straight banned, but he needs to be watched.

Smokey · « **Reply #204 on:** August 24, 2011, 12:13:49 AM »

Quote from: Ring Wraith on August 24, 2011, 12:01:56 AM

I nominate that you erase all errata's that were given for the purpose of toning down a card and ban that card. They've been using errata as a way to get around banning, so you might as well ban them instead of keeping an errata. Sorry, ANB.

I don't see the purpose of this, most of those were made for type 2, and ban is currently t1 only.

Warrior_Monk · « **Reply #205 on:** August 24, 2011, 12:21:38 AM »

Q. What is the point of Type Ban?
A. To ban cards that are broken instead of errata-ing them or letting them roam free, as Cactus is currently doing.
Q. Why are there cards that are errata'd?
A. Because Cactus has already done so and we're still using their way of stopping broken cards because it's already been done...?
Q. Why can't cards work the way they say they work?
A. Because, well, we don't want to fix that...?

ANB had a number of killer T1 combos leading to it's erratas.

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #206 on:** August 24, 2011, 01:46:53 AM »

Type Ban is designed to be very similar to T1, but maximizing fun by banning certain centralizing or NPE cards. Banning cards that have a T2 errata (or even a general errata like ANB) is outside the scope of what this type is about. Unless said errata'd card is lessening fun on its own (like Grapes last season).

Smokey · « **Reply #207 on:** August 26, 2011, 07:29:57 PM »

Alex, assuming your other nominations are what you are planning to nominate please include a reason for all of the cards that weren't banned last season.

My nominations:

New Jerusalem, Mayhem, Lost Souls, Falling Away.

Alex_Olijar · « **Reply #208 on:** August 26, 2011, 08:50:19 PM »

I agree with your nominations for now. Not sure what else to do until I see how those bans play out.

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #209 on:** August 29, 2011, 09:36:26 PM »

I add Joseph to my list of ban nominees. TB was already nearly 100% centralized to Genesis before it got an unreal amount of help in this set. Now even normal T1 is almost entirely genesis from my experience. Joseph needs t2h banz if there's to be any hope of diversity.

Alex_Olijar · « **Reply #210 on:** August 29, 2011, 10:00:32 PM »

Quote from: Minister Polarius on August 29, 2011, 09:36:26 PM

I add Joseph to my list of ban nominees. TB was already nearly 100% centralized to Genesis before it got an unreal amount of help in this set. Now even normal T1 is almost entirely genesis from my experience. Joseph needs t2h banz if there's to be any hope of diversity.

I would nom 7years before Joseph probably.

lp670sv · « **Reply #211 on:** August 29, 2011, 10:12:34 PM »

Alex out of curiosity how much does it cost to rent your sig?

Alex_Olijar · « **Reply #212 on:** August 29, 2011, 10:16:19 PM »

Depends what you want to put there.

Chronic Apathy · « **Reply #213 on:** August 29, 2011, 10:25:16 PM »

Don't ban Joe, ban Creation of the World. Genesis ends up significantly balanced.

Alex_Olijar · « **Reply #214 on:** August 29, 2011, 10:26:33 PM »

Not really. Creation of the World is a gimmick. Joe is a hero with 2 CBN enhancements that can't be marytred.

Chronic Apathy · « **Reply #215 on:** August 29, 2011, 10:31:13 PM »

I don't think he's broken enough to justify a ban though. CotW takes Genesis and makes it crazy if you can pull that off early enough. I just don't feel it. Ben should be banned before Joe.

BubbleBoy · « **Reply #216 on:** August 30, 2011, 07:48:19 AM »

Quote from: Alex_Olijar on August 29, 2011, 10:26:33 PM

Not really. Creation of the World is a gimmick. Joe is a hero with 2 CBN enhancements that can't be marytred.

2? I assume you're talking about the 2 that come with him? There is one more though, and it's significant.

Lamborghini_diablo · « **Reply #217 on:** August 30, 2011, 09:31:56 AM »

3 CBN battle winners:

Forgiveness of Joseph, Joesph before Pharoah, and Reuben's Torn Clothes.

Smokey · « **Reply #218 on:** August 30, 2011, 11:28:58 AM »

Quote from: Lamborghini_diablo on August 30, 2011, 09:31:56 AM

3 CBN battle winners:

Forgiveness of Joseph, Joesph before Pharoah, and Reuben's Torn Clothes.

Lamby, YUNO POST BANS.

Rawrlolsauce! · « **Reply #219 on:** August 30, 2011, 01:24:18 PM »

Quote from: Alex_Olijar on August 29, 2011, 10:16:19 PM

Depends what you want to put there.

Something somewhat crude but tasteful. It may get you banned and it's not something you'd be willing to say in front of your boss.

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #220 on:** August 31, 2011, 11:04:56 PM »

Played my first couple TB games. I won't go into great detail since both decks were pretty hastily made and not the best representations of TB, but I reiterate my nomination for the banning of Joseph. Almost guaranteed initiative, 3 CBN battle-winners, can't be Martyred, can be protected from Capture, easy playing of Creation of the World, 2 Heroes that retrieve him from Discard (one of whom can also retrieve him from deck), and in a brigade so fast it makes Disciples cry.

Red Dragon Thorn · « **Reply #221 on:** August 31, 2011, 11:23:24 PM »

You saw nothing!

But I pretty much agree. Sad part is that I only used Joe for 2 of the 9 rescues that I made. Gen just has far, far to many options.

Chronic Apathy · « **Reply #222 on:** September 02, 2011, 09:39:02 AM »

Quote from: Minister Polarius on August 31, 2011, 11:04:56 PM

Played my first couple TB games. I won't go into great detail since both decks were pretty hastily made and not the best representations of TB, but I reiterate my nomination for the banning of Joseph. Almost guaranteed initiative, 3 CBN battle-winners, can't be Martyred, can be protected from Capture, easy playing of Creation of the World, 2 Heroes that retrieve him from Discard (one of whom can also retrieve him from deck), and in a brigade so fast it makes Disciples cry.

How exactly can he be protected from capture other than Tassels?

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #223 on:** September 02, 2011, 10:00:03 AM »

Obadiah's Caves.

EmJayBee83 · « **Reply #224 on:** September 02, 2011, 07:07:40 PM »

Quote from: Rawrlolsauce! on August 30, 2011, 01:24:18 PM

Quote from: Alex_Olijar on August 29, 2011, 10:16:19 PM
Depends what you want to put there.
Something somewhat crude but tasteful. It may get you banned and it's not something you'd be willing to say in front of your boss.

Rawrlolsauce! receives the first plus one I have ever given for the quote at the bottom. You should rent Olijar's space just to include a bit more of that or to sing of Olaf glad and big.

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Author Topic: Type 1-2 Player Unofficial Banlist (Read 87111 times)

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