Author Topic: Type 1-2 Player Unofficial Banlist (Read 87152 times)

Master KChief · « **Reply #150 on:** July 27, 2011, 09:34:51 PM »

how isnt doubt useless in teams?

TheHobbit13 · « **Reply #151 on:** July 27, 2011, 10:22:36 PM »

You used to be able to add it to battle in teams but they changed that because it would be a broken ctb card.

Master KChief · « **Reply #152 on:** July 27, 2011, 10:28:35 PM »

right, but thats no longer allowed, so doubt is still relegated to an utterly useless card, right?

TheHobbit13 · « **Reply #153 on:** July 27, 2011, 10:35:39 PM »

no doubt about it.

SomeKittens · « **Reply #154 on:** July 27, 2011, 11:49:58 PM »

Quote from: TheHobbit13 on July 27, 2011, 10:22:36 PM

You used to be able to add it to battle in teams but they changed that because it would be a broken ctb card.

They changed that? Since when? I had it used against me *twice* in teams at Regionals.

Master KChief · « **Reply #155 on:** July 27, 2011, 11:54:13 PM »

im sincerely starting to feel sorry for any regionals that doesn't start with 'north central' at the beginning.

SomeKittens · « **Reply #156 on:** July 27, 2011, 11:56:51 PM »

You mean the one where Thad was ruled wrong?

Master KChief · « **Reply #157 on:** July 27, 2011, 11:59:00 PM »

no, that would be Midwest regionals.

Alex_Olijar · « **Reply #158 on:** July 28, 2011, 12:54:45 AM »

That rule was never "changed". It just plain never existed. We used it at Nats 2008 when Teams was just a house format. It has never and will never be tournament legal.

SomeKittens · « **Reply #159 on:** July 28, 2011, 12:59:24 AM »

Quote from: Alex_Olijar on July 28, 2011, 12:54:45 AM

That rule was never "changed". It just plain never existed. We used it at Nats 2008 when Teams was just a house format. It has never and will never be tournament legal.

We had elder confirmation that it was allowed at NE Regs. Can I get it ruled here otherwise?

Alex_Olijar · « **Reply #160 on:** July 28, 2011, 01:02:30 AM »

Post the ruling question. Anyone who disagrees with me, is frankly, daydreaming. If the topic still exists, I am about 90% sure that Professor Underwood specifically asked about Doubt (to clarify its worthlessness) to Rob when Teams was announced as official, and Rob replied that no house rules/erratas would be used in tournament play.

If I had been aware of this play, I would have ardently condemned any ruling supporting its legality.

Per the Teams Official Rules Thread:

Quote from: CactusRob on April 05, 2010, 10:41:11 AM

Regarding # 2) I am not going to make Doubt do something it doesn't do to accommodate teams. Understand that as much as possible errata is reserved for correcting a card when it is doing something unintended that is breaking the game. Errata is not going to be used upgrade cards to make them more useful.

Smokey · « **Reply #161 on:** July 28, 2011, 02:39:42 AM »

Quote from: SomeKittens on July 27, 2011, 09:14:44 PM

Quote from: Smokey on July 27, 2011, 01:40:02 PM
Just out of curiosity, do the people who post in this thread regularly and don't have membership actually play type ban?
Seems counter-productive to want your opinion heard but have no power to do anything with it.
Perhaps I'm just against the idea, and enjoy the discussion.

Doubt's not useless in Teams.

Wasn't directed at you, but only person who responded.

(Ring Westy doesn't count).

Rawrlolsauce! · « **Reply #162 on:** July 28, 2011, 03:14:43 AM »

Playing Redemption would take away the time I have to play Starcraft.

BubbleBoy · « **Reply #163 on:** July 28, 2011, 09:07:38 AM »

Quote from: Rawrlolsauce! on July 28, 2011, 03:14:43 AM

Playing Redemption would take away the time I have to play Starcraft.

I'm a little busy crafting something else...

Prof Underwood · « **Reply #164 on:** July 28, 2011, 09:40:53 AM »

Quote from: Alex_Olijar on July 28, 2011, 01:02:30 AM

I am about 90% sure that Professor Underwood specifically asked about Doubt (to clarify its worthlessness) to Rob when Teams was announced as official, and Rob replied:
Quote from: CactusRob on April 05, 2010, 10:41:11 AM
Regarding # 2) I am not going to make Doubt do something it doesn't do to accommodate teams. Understand that as much as possible errata is reserved for correcting a card when it is doing something unintended that is breaking the game. Errata is not going to be used upgrade cards to make them more useful.

This is correct. When I was first developing the TEAMS format, Doubt did have an "unofficial errata" that allowed it to be played in battle (however, there was also soon a rule that said that if you played it during your opponent's block, that your opponent was STILL allowed to add one of their own characters to block as well). This made Doubt a very interesting card in TEAMS, but also stopped it being used as a CTB card that it was not intended to be.

However, when TEAMS became an official category, Rob wanted it to line up with all the other categories, and therefore the "unofficial errata" on Doubt had to go. That was also when the definition of "your" changed to become specifically about 1 player on a team.

Arch Angel · « **Reply #165 on:** July 31, 2011, 01:57:42 AM »

Troll posting my bans on last day.

So I played various games. I love the bans as a general rule. Honestly, I don't see any problems with the bans as they currently are, though. I do not see that banning CM and AotL would help at all, but I won't directly oppose it. I guess I'm more neutral. I fully support all bans that are currently in place, though.

Also, I'm going away, so I can't participate in the next round or two. Sorry x.x

Smokey · « **Reply #166 on:** July 31, 2011, 01:49:58 PM »

Quote from: Arch Angel on July 31, 2011, 01:57:42 AM

Troll.

Also, I'm going away, so I can't participate in the next round or two. Sorry x.x

Seems legit, You can keep membership.

Alex_Olijar · « **Reply #167 on:** July 31, 2011, 01:53:02 PM »

When does the next round end? Do we have any new bans for it?

Smokey · « **Reply #168 on:** July 31, 2011, 01:53:57 PM »

Quote from: Alex_Olijar on July 31, 2011, 01:53:02 PM

When does the next round end? Do we have any new bans for it?

Tomorrow, Grapes.

Alex_Olijar · « **Reply #169 on:** July 31, 2011, 01:54:45 PM »

I meant the round that Arch is going to miss. I might be missing it too... I will be not at home from this wednesday until the monday after Nats. I wasn't sure when the round would end.

Rawrlolsauce! · « **Reply #170 on:** July 31, 2011, 01:57:33 PM »

Dear Mr. Smokey,

It has come to the attention of the Administration of the Cactus Game Design Message Boards that you are running a group or club that excludes members. From our understanding, you are refusing access of this club to various individuals if they refuse to be active and play Redemption. Under Cactus Game Design Message Board rules, this is inappropriate. You will be given 24 (twenty four) hours to cease and desist this behavior.

Thank you for your cooperation,
Rawrlolsauce!
Head of (name removed due to copyright issues).

Smokey · « **Reply #171 on:** July 31, 2011, 02:01:21 PM »

Quote from: Alex_Olijar on July 31, 2011, 01:54:45 PM

I meant the round that Arch is going to miss. I might be missing it too... I will be not at home from this wednesday until the monday after Nats. I wasn't sure when the round would end.

... two weeks from tomorrow.

You should be fine if you play a game anytime from tomorrow - Wednesday before you leave.

Quote from: Rawrlolsauce! on July 31, 2011, 01:57:33 PM

Dear Mr. Smokey,

It has come to the attention of the Administration of the Cactus Game Design Message Boards that you are running a group or club that excludes members. From our understanding, you are refusing access of this club to various individuals if they refuse to be active and play Redemption. Under Cactus Game Design Message Board rules, this is inappropriate. You will be given 24 (twenty four) hours to cease and desist this behavior.

Thank you for your cooperation,
Rawrlolsauce!
Head of (name removed due to copyright issues).

I don't exclude members, anyone can obtain membership.
Please shut down ROOT if this is a problem hurr head of JACK DANIEL'S SAWCE.

Red Dragon Thorn · « **Reply #172 on:** July 31, 2011, 02:10:06 PM »

Quote from: Rawrlolsauce! on July 31, 2011, 01:57:33 PM

Dear Mr. Smokey,

It has come to the attention of the Administration of the Cactus Game Design Message Boards that you are running a group or club that excludes members. From our understanding, you are refusing access of this club to various individuals if they refuse to be active and play Redemption. Under Cactus Game Design Message Board rules, this is inappropriate. You will be given 24 (twenty four) hours to cease and desist this behavior.

Thank you for your cooperation,
Rawrlolsauce!
Head of (name removed due to copyright issues).

Dear Mr. Sauce,

It has come to the attention of the Administration of the Cactus Game Design Message Boards that you are running a group or club that excludes members. From our understanding, you are refusing access of this club to various individuals if they refuse to be active in seeking out people in clubs and threatening thier removal therein. Furthermore, you are impersonating Cactus Game Employee's/Volunteer's. Under Cactus Game Design Message Board rules, this is inappropriate. You will be given 24 (twenty four) hours to cease and desist this behavior.

Thank you for your cooperation,
RDT
Redemption Elder - Redemption Card Play Moderator

Smokey · « **Reply #173 on:** August 03, 2011, 02:59:44 PM »

Updated, I'd like to say I was busy for the past few days but I wasn't... totally forgot... happens.

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #174 on:** August 05, 2011, 10:14:51 PM »

Played a very one-sided game. The person who won got off to an amazing start and just kept plowing away from there. By the end of the game, he had 9001 cards in territory and the person who lost had 3 or 4. And then the winning RA used CTB Damsel with Serpent in hand just to twist the blade XD

However, the person who lost had 4 and almost won, despite a 7 turn card disadvantage and depleted hand the entire game. This was possible because TB is super-awesome.

I am still lobbying for banning CM and AotL. Eliminating them would help decentralize the game even further and force players to build decks well to account for particularly nasty characters, rather than relying on a Dom to solve the problem.

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Author Topic: Type 1-2 Player Unofficial Banlist (Read 87152 times)

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