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how isnt doubt useless in teams?

right, but thats no longer allowed, so doubt is still relegated to an utterly useless card, right?

You used to be able to add it to battle in teams but they changed that because it would be a broken ctb card.

They changed that?  Since when?  I had it used against me *twice* in teams at Regionals.

You mean the one where Thad was ruled wrong?

That rule was never "changed". It just plain never existed. We used it at Nats 2008 when Teams was just a house format. It has never and will never be tournament legal.

Post the ruling question. Anyone who disagrees with me, is frankly, daydreaming. If the topic still exists, I am about 90% sure that Professor Underwood specifically asked about Doubt (to clarify its worthlessness) to Rob when Teams was announced as official, and Rob replied that no house rules/erratas would be used in tournament play.

If I had been aware of this play, I would have ardently condemned any ruling supporting its legality.

Per the Teams Official Rules Thread:

Regarding # 2)  I am not going to make Doubt do something it doesn't do to accommodate teams.  Understand that as much as possible errata is reserved for correcting a card when it is doing something unintended that is breaking the game.  Errata is not going to be used upgrade cards to make them more useful.

Playing Redemption would take away the time I have to play Starcraft.

I am about 90% sure that Professor Underwood specifically asked about Doubt (to clarify its worthlessness) to Rob when Teams was announced as official, and Rob replied:

Quote from: CactusRob on April 05, 2010, 10:41:11 AM

Regarding # 2)  I am not going to make Doubt do something it doesn't do to accommodate teams.  Understand that as much as possible errata is reserved for correcting a card when it is doing something unintended that is breaking the game.  Errata is not going to be used upgrade cards to make them more useful.

This is correct.  When I was first developing the TEAMS format, Doubt did have an "unofficial errata" that allowed it to be played in battle (however, there was also soon a rule that said that if you played it during your opponent's block, that your opponent was STILL allowed to add one of their own characters to block as well).  This made Doubt a very interesting card in TEAMS, but also stopped it being used as a CTB card that it was not intended to be.

However, when TEAMS became an official category, Rob wanted it to line up with all the other categories, and therefore the "unofficial errata" on Doubt had to go.  That was also when the definition of "your" changed to become specifically about 1 player on a team.

Troll.

Also, I'm going away, so I can't participate in the next round or two. Sorry x.x

Seems legit, You can keep membership.

When does the next round end? Do we have any new bans for it?

Tomorrow, Grapes.

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Played a very one-sided game. The person who won got off to an amazing start and just kept plowing away from there. By the end of the game, he had 9001 cards in territory and the person who lost had 3 or 4. And then the winning RA used CTB Damsel with Serpent in hand just to twist the blade XD

However, the person who lost had 4 and almost won, despite a 7 turn card disadvantage and depleted hand the entire game. This was possible because TB is super-awesome.

I am still lobbying for banning CM and AotL. Eliminating them would help decentralize the game even further and force players to build decks well to account for particularly nasty characters, rather than relying on a Dom to solve the problem.