Author Topic: Dom Limited (Read 16561 times)

TheKarazyvicePresidentRR · « **Reply #25 on:** August 16, 2010, 01:41:14 AM »

Truthfully, any type who's main selling point is less doms that will allow SOG NJ will not draw e in.

SomeKittens · « **Reply #26 on:** August 18, 2010, 02:57:37 PM »

Some thoughts on revision:
NJ counts as two doms, rather than ban it outright. You can still burn through your deck for SoG/NJ, but there won't be any Aotl or Grapes to help you.
DoN is changed to say: Discard one active Artifact, card treated as an Artifact, or fortress in play. Artifact's or fortress ability is negated.
This'll help against TGT/Z-temple.

goldencomet · « **Reply #27 on:** August 18, 2010, 03:04:20 PM »

yeah, we need a dominant against fortresses

swgamble · « **Reply #28 on:** August 19, 2010, 10:24:36 AM »

Quote from: goldencomet on August 18, 2010, 03:04:20 PM

yeah, we need a dominant against fortresses

there areplenty of ways to get rid of a fortress. the last thing we need is another dom that takes up another slot in everyones decks

SomeKittens · « **Reply #29 on:** August 19, 2010, 11:04:20 AM »

Quote from: swgamble on August 19, 2010, 10:24:36 AM

Quote from: goldencomet on August 18, 2010, 03:04:20 PM
yeah, we need a dominant against fortresses

there areplenty of ways to get rid of a fortress. the last thing we need is another dom that takes up another slot in everyones decks

Thus why I changed DoN to get rid of either or. As to "another slot in everyones decks" this whole discussion is about preventing just that.

TheKarazyvicePresidentRR · « **Reply #30 on:** August 20, 2010, 08:53:40 AM »

The thing is if this type gets official it won't work that way.

SomeKittens · « **Reply #31 on:** August 20, 2010, 10:20:00 AM »

Why not?

The M · « **Reply #32 on:** August 21, 2010, 03:30:43 PM »

i usually only do SoG, NJ, angel, grapes, christian martyr, burial and falling away

TheKarazyvicePresidentRR · « **Reply #33 on:** August 21, 2010, 03:52:30 PM »

Quote from: The M on August 21, 2010, 03:30:43 PM

i usually only do SoG, NJ, angel, grapes, christian martyr, burial and falling away

Proof of a new player.

Real Pros use Doubt X 6

SomeKittens · « **Reply #34 on:** August 21, 2010, 04:57:53 PM »

This is much more oriented toward experienced players. I'm not using it in my playgroup currently, as everyone only has SoG/AotL/CM/Burial, and some NJ.

Master_Chi · « **Reply #35 on:** August 30, 2010, 10:43:39 AM »

I would agree with RR that you should exclude SoG/NJ to give props to deckbuilding ingenious. Otherwise, it's T1 minus 2 doms.

SomeKittens · « **Reply #36 on:** August 31, 2010, 12:21:40 PM »

I don't want to start banning cards, so here's the modification I made
NJ counts as two doms, so if you're using it, SoG/NJ are your ONLY Good Doms. No AotL to take out the pesky EC, no Grapes for fun, no Harvest time to upset a timely Burial.
DoN can now also take out fortresses (TGT, I'm looking at you)

Alex_Olijar · « **Reply #37 on:** August 31, 2010, 09:33:58 PM »

The first change is contrived and ridiculous and makes absolutely zero sense. The second is a full on errata to solve a problem, which in most players' opinions, isn't a problem.

SomeKittens · « **Reply #38 on:** September 04, 2010, 10:19:20 AM »

Contrived and ridiculous, until you realize that we're trying to make an entirely new gametype, with new strategy. Of course it doesn't make sense in T1, because I'm not designing something for T1.

As far as the errata on DoN, what's wrong with some fortress killing? Again, this is supposed to be a different playstyle, so that people can compete with more than TGT/speed

Alex_Olijar · « **Reply #39 on:** September 04, 2010, 01:55:55 PM »

But you are not trying to make a new gametype. You are trying to make the gameplay of T1 better.

SomeKittens · « **Reply #40 on:** September 04, 2010, 10:44:50 PM »

Ok, so it's not an entirely new gametype, and it won't be "better" by everyone's definition. This is something new for those who think that Redemption hovers on the edge of brokenness.

Alex_Olijar · « **Reply #41 on:** September 04, 2010, 10:47:50 PM »

I think that that in the past it has been made pretty clear Redemption is nowhere near broken.

SomeKittens · « **Reply #42 on:** September 04, 2010, 10:49:29 PM »

Quote from: Alex_Olijar on September 04, 2010, 10:47:50 PM

I think that that in the past it has been made pretty clear Redemption is nowhere near broken.

That's your opinion. Others have different opinions, and there's no reason we can't facilitate them.

Alex_Olijar · « **Reply #43 on:** September 04, 2010, 10:51:49 PM »

The problem is you are actually attempting to break the game more by making a card that is already about as good as a card can be arguably the best card in the game.

777Godspeed · « **Reply #44 on:** September 04, 2010, 11:41:11 PM »

I vote Type NW be officially sanctioned as a new Redemption category.
@ STAMP - bring it back, bring it back, bring it back!

Godspeed,
Mike

The M · « **Reply #45 on:** September 11, 2010, 12:37:59 PM »

I second that motion but nobody listens to me because i am just a noob.

SomeKittens · « **Reply #46 on:** September 11, 2010, 12:59:13 PM »

Type NW is another thing. I still want to keep this balanced, without banning cards.

The Warrior · « **Reply #47 on:** September 11, 2010, 01:03:20 PM »

Quote from: The M on September 11, 2010, 12:37:59 PM

I second that motion but nobody listens to me because i am just a noob.

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The M · « **Reply #48 on:** September 11, 2010, 04:35:27 PM »

Quote from: The Warrior on September 11, 2010, 01:03:20 PM

Quote from: The M on September 11, 2010, 12:37:59 PM
I second that motion but nobody listens to me because i am just a noob.
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Ironically, I was actually referring to you.

browarod · « **Reply #49 on:** September 11, 2010, 06:56:49 PM »

Quote from: The M on September 11, 2010, 04:35:27 PM

Quote from: The Warrior on September 11, 2010, 01:03:20 PM
Quote from: The M on September 11, 2010, 12:37:59 PM
I second that motion but nobody listens to me because i am just a noob.
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Ironically, I was actually referring to you.

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