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i agree and everyone can say it can't be done and as long as they do guess what!

it won't be! that's why we are making it happen

this is definitely going to mobile

Best of luck!

Consider though streamlining the game. I know a number years ago there was rustle about rebooting the game to simplify things but it never made it past theoretical cards and set ideas due to the game not being big enough for a reboot.

Talk with the playtesters and even talk to us on the boards! You have dozens of people who would be more than happy to help with balancing and gameplay!

In regards to simplifying...

From a visual standpoint. If you to just have 5 heroes, 5 EC's, 1 art, 2 forts, lost souls, no sites and a hand of say 8 cards, you still have a potential almost 30 cards on a single side of the field!!! just for one player!!! Hearthstone gets hectic sometimes and there is a max of 14 cards in play between both! players at anytime (not counting hand size). The Elder Scrolls Legends is very similar with a max of 16 cards on the field (not counting hand size) at all times. Magic Duels (the ghetto version of Magic online) never made it to phones and I believe there was still a max field size ect. for the game.

You guys shouldn't write off simplifying the game if you are 100% set on going mobile/tablet. Simplifying the game not only makes it much more manageable from a playability standpoint but you've also simplified the amount of coding you need to do and increased your ability to port the game.

If you've played any video game TCG's that require steps or counter play during another opponents turn it can get very tedious to play online with other people. Look at MTG Online (which note never made it to IOS, Andriod, Mac or Steam, it's a PC only thing), if you watch game play a significant amount of it is just passing the phase.

QFT.

Little known fact. Back before I created the Lackey plugin, I spent a considerable chunk of time (around six months or so) working on an OCTGN (http://octgn.net/) plugin for Redemption. The reason for trying OCTGN first was that it let you script card abilities and game flow.  So when a player played Hur, the opponent would automatically be asked to select a card to keep, and after the selection the shuffle in and draw would take place automatically. (The first cards I got working were ANB and Hur.) Despite considerable effort I was forced to scrap the idea. So what was the problem?

This type of scripted game engine works best when a game has a linear flow (or nearly so). Redemption, on the other hand specializes in non-linear game interactions what with interrupts, negates, cascaded negates, special initiative, dominant play, artifact play, etc. For one example, if the app doesn't include Dominants, you are not really playing Redemption. To get dominant play correct prior to every single action the system would need to ask each player if they would like to play a dominant. This manual interaction is tedious (to say the least), and the amount of it needed for a scripted version of Redemption would be large.

In the end, I decided the best player experience would be to allow people to just play. Make them manually place cards on the table. Let them send a chat to "Stop I am going to play AotL." Redemption is a game best enjoyed by having people play in real time.

                   Hello everyone! Does anyone out there have programming experience, computer animation experience, or sound technician experience? I'm looking to make a Redemption app for iOS and Android. My goal is to make it so one could play online with friends and other random players looking for matches. It will have a campaign-like single player mode with rewards. It will have every card from every expansion but they must be purchased via micro-transactions in booster form. It will be fully animated and have sound effects for everything. I'm also looking for illustrators and designers willing to join the team and bless the Redemption community by allowing it to blow up and be recognized by millions more.
                 There aren't too many faith-based game apps out there and I believe many Christian parents would rather have their children playing Redemption TCG Online than Candy Crush or Clash of Whatever. If the Redemption community backs this tremendous step forward, we could have this app running sooner than later and see thousands of people playing the Redemption app and, with the link to the Three Lions Gaming site and Cactus Game Design site, they will be able to order cards and merchandise through the app as well.

Hey! So my name is Andrew Gotzon and I play redemption in Missouri, just got back into it after not playing for around 4 years. I actually do have experience programming (I currently work at a company called Cerner in KCMO which is a health IT company). Mostly I prefer back-end/database management work but I also have experience in front-end development. Mostly through javascript/angularJS. If you needed help might I suggest contacting me, but even more then that posting what code you currently have on a public repository on GitHub. That way you can have many different people contribute to the code without having to "pass it" from person to person. Not sure if you have a Repo for your code but if you do then I would be glad to contribute!

So totally necro'ing this post, but if you are serious about developing this, please talk with me. I have spent the past 7 years with over 5 iterations trying to make this work. The biggest issue is trying to fit the UI to make it usable. Redemption is a complex game, with TONS of cards that are capable of being played at once. I even had an agreement with Rob to let me make a commercial game that would span mobile and PC/Mac. I hired some devs to help me on it, and we started to make decent progress, but then I lost all my help. I still have the project archived, as I put it off until I could get dedicated help. It's one of my life goals to make a digital Redemption. While I left the Redemption scene, it never left my heart.

For those interested, the project is built using the unity engine, with C# as the scripting language.

Reth, the problem with that is in order to create a high quality game, it would need be commercial to afford all the costs associated with it, and it would be unwise to product source files to the public for such an endeavour. While making it open source would make it easier for the community to contribute, I have doubts as to if that would see the project to success.