Author Topic: Ponies. (Read 71255 times)

Drrek · « **Reply #150 on:** July 11, 2012, 03:49:08 PM »

Quote from: stefferweffer on July 11, 2012, 03:22:15 PM

Quote from: TheKarazyvicePresidentRR on May 29, 2012, 12:35:01 AM
Love and Tolerate everypony!
Can I ask a serious question about this phrase please?

I have a 10 year old boy who plays with Legos and pretend swords and scary action figures one day, but also enjoys his huge Littlest Pet Shop and Webkinz collection on another day. I say this because I see him as "well-rounded" and am not afraid of him getting interested in things that are traditionally considered to be for girls. This is why I have considered looking into this show.

But phrases like this, and some of the show's most vocal proponents, are what give me a moment of pause before bringing it into my home. Is this "love and tolerate everypony" thing a creation of the show, or of the fanbase? If it is a creation of the show, then are we certain that the show's creators do not have an agenda in mind that most Christians would disagree with? (I'm sure that most of you know what I'm talking about.)

Yes, the bible makes it clear that we are to love everybody, even our enemies actually. I don't have a problem with that at all. It's this "tolerate" part that I'm hung up on. What do they mean by that, and why did that word have to be added to the "love" portion? The word "tolerance" is tossed around today as an appeal for people with strong religious views to SHUT UP and to keep their views to themself. Ironically this is the epitomy of INtolerance of other viewpoints, but there it is.

So can someone please provide any factual information that they have on what the show means when it says that we are to "tolerate" every body in addition to loving them? Because it seems to me that whatever behavior we tolerate by being silent about it, we also encourage.

Thanks for your help.

(P.S. How does the show explain the lack of boy ponies? Are there any pony "parents" on the show?)

"Love and Tolerate" is a phrase created by and used by the fan-base.

There are boy ponies on the show, its just that the main cast is all female. They all have jobs (Rarity owns a fashion shop, Rainbow Dash works controlling the weather for the town, Twilight is essentially a grad-student, Applejack works on a farm, Pinkie Pie works in a sweet shop, Fluttershy... well she takes care of animals so I guess that's her job) and live on their own, so it makes sense for them not to be living with their parents any more. We still have seen many of their parents (Rarity's father and mother, Twilight's father and mother), so yes they do have parents. Also the ponies who run the shop Pinkie Pie works at are married and have two baby ponies.

Lampy 2.0 · « **Reply #151 on:** July 11, 2012, 04:21:20 PM »

And don't forget Pinkie's parents!

The Warrior · « **Reply #152 on:** July 11, 2012, 04:52:24 PM »

Quote from: stefferweffer on July 11, 2012, 03:22:15 PM

Quote from: TheKarazyvicePresidentRR on May 29, 2012, 12:35:01 AM
Love and Tolerate everypony!
Can I ask a serious question about this phrase please?

I have a 10 year old boy who plays with Legos and pretend swords and scary action figures one day, but also enjoys his huge Littlest Pet Shop and Webkinz collection on another day. I say this because I see him as "well-rounded" and am not afraid of him getting interested in things that are traditionally considered to be for girls. This is why I have considered looking into this show.

But phrases like this, and some of the show's most vocal proponents, are what give me a moment of pause before bringing it into my home. Is this "love and tolerate everypony" thing a creation of the show, or of the fanbase? If it is a creation of the show, then are we certain that the show's creators do not have an agenda in mind that most Christians would disagree with? (I'm sure that most of you know what I'm talking about.)

Yes, the bible makes it clear that we are to love everybody, even our enemies actually. I don't have a problem with that at all. It's this "tolerate" part that I'm hung up on. What do they mean by that, and why did that word have to be added to the "love" portion? The word "tolerance" is tossed around today as an appeal for people with strong religious views to SHUT UP and to keep their views to themself. Ironically this is the epitomy of INtolerance of other viewpoints, but there it is.

So can someone please provide any factual information that they have on what the show means when it says that we are to "tolerate" every body in addition to loving them? Because it seems to me that whatever behavior we tolerate by being silent about it, we also encourage.

Thanks for your help.

(P.S. How does the show explain the lack of boy ponies? Are there any pony "parents" on the show?)

In addition to what has already been said, (The Phrase is fan-created) I would like to point out that not all fans like or approve of this statement, if fact, some hate it and consider it stupid. But there are also the groups that use and encourages the use of the phrase, so It really is a Matter of opinion and/or beliefs.

Simply stated:
Yes,There are Male Ponies, but they are lesser in number than the females.
Yes, The Parents of Applejack,PinkiePie and Twilight are Shown if Flashbacks in the episode named "Cutie Mark Chronicles"

Soundman2 · « **Reply #153 on:** July 11, 2012, 11:29:51 PM »

Quote from: Lamborghini_diablo on July 11, 2012, 03:46:24 PM

Quote from: stefferweffer on July 11, 2012, 03:22:15 PM
Quote from: TheKarazyvicePresidentRR on May 29, 2012, 12:35:01 AM
Love and Tolerate everypony!
Can I ask a serious question about this phrase please?

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It's more of a fanbase creation. They might have said that once in the show, but it's not said as often as the fans would make you think. Note, I'm speaking from kind of an outsider's viewpoint as I've kinda stopped following what the fanbase is doing since I graduated.

From what I have seen it's a response to the haters.

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(P.S. How does the show explain the lack of boy ponies? Are there any pony "parents" on the show?)

There are male characters and parents (though, not very many) in the show.

there are booth you just don't see as mach of them

stefferweffer · « **Reply #154 on:** July 12, 2012, 08:31:14 AM »

OK, I think we gave it a fair shot. Last night myself, my son, and my wife watched the two-parter first episode. Sadly, I am not a "brony". Nor did it grab my wife's interest or my son's. My son kept making gagging gestures, and my wife kept rolling her eyes. Personally it did seem pretty heavy on the "cheesy/sappy" scale, and I wasn't even impressed with the animation style. I did like the voice-acting and different characters though. I guess I just went into it with really high expectations based on what had been said here. I'm sure that if I had a 7 or 8 year old daughter she would love it.

On the plus side though, I saw nothing offensive in the show and I agree that it tried to teach good lessons, and I didn't feel it was trying to teach anything inappropriate. Thanks for inviting me to watch it, and for addressing my questions/concerns.

Lampy 2.0 · « **Reply #155 on:** July 12, 2012, 09:01:20 AM »

It seriously gets better a bit later on. Especially the episodes about Pinkie Pie.

YourMathTeacher · « **Reply #156 on:** July 12, 2012, 09:44:10 AM »

Quote from: stefferweffer on July 12, 2012, 08:31:14 AM

OK, I think we gave it a fair shot. Last night myself, my son, and my wife watched the two-parter first episode. Sadly, I am not a "brony". Nor did it grab my wife's interest or my son's. My son kept making gagging gestures, and my wife kept rolling her eyes. Personally it did seem pretty heavy on the "cheesy/sappy" scale, and I wasn't even impressed with the animation style.

The show is definitely not for everybody, much like Monty Python (which also causes gagging guestures and eye rolling). Admittedly, I would not watch the show for personal enjoyment. I only watch it with my daughter. The show seems to have been designed for a father to watch with his daughter, which is not the norm for girl-themed shows. The peripheral effect was that RPG-minded males also found it interesting.

I applaud your approach to this, even though you didn't care for the show.

Lampy 2.0 · « **Reply #157 on:** July 12, 2012, 10:01:47 AM »

And thank you, Mr. stefferweffer, for giving the show a shot. It's a lot better than somebody criticizing the show and not having watched an episode.

I may have to start watching Season 2 TODAY because I didn't do it yesterday. I can't wait to see Discord!

The Warrior · « **Reply #158 on:** July 12, 2012, 01:23:12 PM »

Quote from: stefferweffer on July 12, 2012, 08:31:14 AM

OK, I think we gave it a fair shot. Last night myself, my son, and my wife watched the two-parter first episode. Sadly, I am not a "brony". Nor did it grab my wife's interest or my son's. My son kept making gagging gestures, and my wife kept rolling her eyes. Personally it did seem pretty heavy on the "cheesy/sappy" scale, and I wasn't even impressed with the animation style. I did like the voice-acting and different characters though. I guess I just went into it with really high expectations based on what had been said here. I'm sure that if I had a 7 or 8 year old daughter she would love it.

On the plus side though, I saw nothing offensive in the show and I agree that it tried to teach good lessons, and I didn't feel it was trying to teach anything inappropriate. Thanks for inviting me to watch it, and for addressing my questions/concerns.

are you kidding me. the first episode is the worst episode.But if you don't like the show that's fine too

Lampy 2.0 · « **Reply #159 on:** July 12, 2012, 04:48:15 PM »

You have a point. They were the only episodes I felt uncomfortable watching. (Especially the part when the "Mane 6" defeat Luna.) Later episodes are FAR better. I'm going to start watching Season 2 soon (I hope) but I can recommend some good ones from the first season, if you'd like.

stefferweffer · « **Reply #160 on:** July 12, 2012, 05:01:15 PM »

OK then, is there a consensus out there for best episode? I'm only willing to watch one more before I throw in the towel.

The Warrior · « **Reply #161 on:** July 12, 2012, 05:20:58 PM »

Quote from: stefferweffer on July 12, 2012, 05:01:15 PM

OK then, is there a consensus out there for best episode? I'm only willing to watch one more before I throw in the towel.

Generally, Kinda, but People's attitudes towards certain episodes are diverse depending on there personality and/or favorite ponies. Pretty much the only episodes that know of that universally rejected are the first 2-part, and Miss Mare-Do-Well.
Again, True Bronies understand and accept if a person doesn't like the show so that's All right too

Lampy 2.0 · « **Reply #162 on:** July 12, 2012, 05:54:36 PM »

I highly recommend the episodes "Party of One," "Feelin' Pinkie Keen," and "Bridle Gossip." I laughed a lot while watching these, as well as the episode "Dog and Pony Show."

I hear that a lot of Bronies love the Season 2 finale.

The Warrior · « **Reply #163 on:** July 12, 2012, 10:21:05 PM »

Quote from: Lampy 2.0 on July 12, 2012, 05:54:36 PM

I highly recommend the episodes "Party of One," "Feelin' Pinkie Keen," and "Bridle Gossip." I laughed a lot while watching these, as well as the episode "Dog and Pony Show."

I hear that a lot of Bronies love the Season 2 finale.

the Season 2 Premiere and Season 2 Finale 2-parters are both good

Lampy 2.0 · « **Reply #164 on:** July 12, 2012, 11:05:19 PM »

I watched the Season 2 opener. John De Lancie was just EPIC!

Spoiler (hover to show)

Lamborghini_diablo · « **Reply #165 on:** July 12, 2012, 11:48:02 PM »

Quote from: stefferweffer on July 12, 2012, 05:01:15 PM

OK then, is there a consensus out there for best episode? I'm only willing to watch one more before I throw in the towel.

Season 2 Episodes 1 and 2 should be better. They feature John DeLancie (Who played Q in Star Trek).

Lampy 2.0 · « **Reply #166 on:** July 12, 2012, 11:54:11 PM »

Have any of you guys seen any news about Season 3? A lot of the news I've seen is very exciting!

stefferweffer · « **Reply #167 on:** July 13, 2012, 08:42:32 AM »

Quote from: Lamborghini_diablo on July 12, 2012, 11:48:02 PM

Quote from: stefferweffer on July 12, 2012, 05:01:15 PM
OK then, is there a consensus out there for best episode? I'm only willing to watch one more before I throw in the towel.

Season 2 Episodes 1 and 2 should be better. They feature John DeLancie (Who played Q in Star Trek).

OK, I watched those instead last night. BIG IMPROVEMENT. I was actually entertained and even laughed at a couple parts. "Q" as Discord was hysterical, and Pinkie (sp?) is a riot, and may very well be my favorite.

I'm not saying that I feel compelled to watch the entire show now, but at least I got a better glimpse of its potential. Those first two episodes seem really lame in comparison. How long did it take season one to "raise the bar" to the next level? Did they get better writers or something?

The Warrior · « **Reply #168 on:** July 13, 2012, 08:50:12 AM »

Quote from: Lampy 2.0 on July 12, 2012, 11:54:11 PM

Have any of you guys seen any news about Season 3? A lot of the news I've seen is very exciting!

Well there's the Bit about John doing more voice-work and there was another thing about faust completely leaving the show in the other Writers' etc. hands I read on an image board, otherwise not much else I've heard.

Quote from: stefferweffer on July 13, 2012, 08:42:32 AM

Quote from: Lamborghini_diablo on July 12, 2012, 11:48:02 PM
Quote from: stefferweffer on July 12, 2012, 05:01:15 PM
OK then, is there a consensus out there for best episode? I'm only willing to watch one more before I throw in the towel.

Season 2 Episodes 1 and 2 should be better. They feature John DeLancie (Who played Q in Star Trek).

OK, I watched those instead last night. BIG IMPROVEMENT. I was actually entertained and even laughed at a couple parts. "Q" as Discord was hysterical, and Pinkie (sp?) is a riot, and may very well be my favorite.

I'm not saying that I feel compelled to watch the entire show now, but at least I got a better glimpse of its potential. Those first two episodes seem really lame in comparison. How long did it take season one to "raise the bar" to the the other level? Did they get better writers or something?

That Sounds like a kind of approval-ish? Anyways Glad You've Had a Chance to see Some of what we Enjoy, Your opinion of it is now totally up to you.

Well, (IMO) The Bar was Raised Right after those 2 Episodes. (I Think it is the only Episodes that were bad, or more accurately:No Episodes (IMO) were as bad as it)

Lamborghini_diablo · « **Reply #169 on:** July 13, 2012, 09:19:21 AM »

Quote from: stefferweffer on July 13, 2012, 08:42:32 AM

Quote from: Lamborghini_diablo on July 12, 2012, 11:48:02 PM
Quote from: stefferweffer on July 12, 2012, 05:01:15 PM
OK then, is there a consensus out there for best episode? I'm only willing to watch one more before I throw in the towel.

Season 2 Episodes 1 and 2 should be better. They feature John DeLancie (Who played Q in Star Trek).

OK, I watched those instead last night. BIG IMPROVEMENT. I was actually entertained and even laughed at a couple parts. "Q" as Discord was hysterical, and Pinkie (sp?) is a riot, and may very well be my favorite.

I'm not saying that I feel compelled to watch the entire show now, but at least I got a better glimpse of its potential. Those first two episodes seem really lame in comparison. How long did it take season one to "raise the bar" to the next level? Did they get better writers or something?

Season 1 picked up after a few episodes

Season 2 was pretty much the same quality as S2E1-2 the entire time.

Lampy 2.0 · « **Reply #170 on:** July 19, 2012, 02:45:53 PM »

Here are two songs from season 3 that were spoiled at Comic Con. (BTW, there is something AWESOME in the first song!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlHqckwjyPY

The Warrior · « **Reply #171 on:** July 19, 2012, 04:24:56 PM »

Quote from: Lampy 2.0 on July 19, 2012, 02:45:53 PM

Here are two songs from season 3 that were spoiled at Comic Con. (BTW, there is something AWESOME in the first song!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlHqckwjyPY

I Saw the "Was Not Prepared" One but whatever other song there was spoiled I can wait for....
Do We have a Premiere Date Yet?

Lampy 2.0 · « **Reply #172 on:** July 19, 2012, 05:12:52 PM »

It was supposed to be next month, but they pushed it back. It will air before the end of the year.

The Warrior · « **Reply #173 on:** July 19, 2012, 05:36:05 PM »

Quote from: Lampy 2.0 on July 19, 2012, 05:12:52 PM

It was supposed to be next month, but they pushed it back. It will air before the end of the year.

That's Real' Specific...

Lampy 2.0 · « **Reply #174 on:** July 22, 2012, 05:08:55 PM »

Specificness is my specialty.

Anyway, when season 3 rolls around, here's a game you can play while watching it:

My money's on a bodyswap episode.

News:

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