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Open Forum => Off-Topic => Entertainment => Topic started by: LukeSnyder on July 06, 2010, 02:09:34 PM
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Hey everyone! As some of you may know, I am a drummer and composer. I have been playing the drums for my entire life, and writing for many years. I have decided to share some of my music videos on YouTube with my fellow Redemption board members. I would appreciate any and all feedback from other musicians or music lovers. Also, if you have a YouTube channel, please add me as a friend or subscribe if you would like to keep up to date with my music! My channel is http://www.youtube.com/user/LukeSnyderMusic (http://www.youtube.com/user/LukeSnyderMusic)
You can also join my fanpage on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Luke-Snyder-Music/322995898345?ref=ts (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Luke-Snyder-Music/322995898345?ref=ts)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JXZJj6h-ZI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btx2SDBkY3s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atExXXob8zs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scoIT7ntG-A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rV0EJ5PBlsY&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFSSgPqEkvI
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5aFoKYu6vY
A one man drum and bass jam, haha. Difficult to coordinate for sure!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5S-qeSaxAo&feature=related
Another jam session to a loop. Its in 4, but I threw some 6/8 in there as well.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZ1qPxbehRs&feature=related
Some half-time shufflin', I play my own bass track (sloppily, haha)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-3jTIUMmMk
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the music is cool but the camera seemed a bit slow either that or youtube is slow
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the music is cool but the camera seemed a bit slow either that or youtube is slow
Its a combination of YouTube and the embedding in the forum. All my videos get uploaded at 30 fps; I am unhappy with how it looks here as well :P Oh well!
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The 1st video had some parts in there that were cool for a bit, but they were repeated a bit too much and lost their coolness.
The 2nd video started off pretty chaotic. About 1 min into it, you seemed to find some direction though and it got good.
The 3rd video started off pretty slow and repetitive. Didn't really get good until 1 min into it.
Overall, I think you (and your guitar friend actually) are both very talented (especially for your ages). But I think you could both benefit from listening to some jazz improv (not that I really like Jazz improv myself) I think it would help you both think a bit more outside the box, and increase your creativity.
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The 1st video had some parts in there that were cool for a bit, but they were repeated a bit too much and lost their coolness.
The 2nd video started off pretty chaotic. About 1 min into it, you seemed to find some direction though and it got good.
The 3rd video started off pretty slow and repetitive. Didn't really get good until 1 min into it.
Overall, I think you (and your guitar friend actually) are both very talented (especially for your ages). But I think you could both benefit from listening to some jazz improv (not that I really like Jazz improv myself) I think it would help you both think a bit more outside the box, and increase your creativity.
Thanks for your honesty! I always like receiving comments that can help me grow, its always going to be a journey :D
I see where you're coming from as far as the repetition is concerned, and thats definitely something I try to be aware of. Personally, I think that Acho's solo work on the tune is plenty to maintain interest, and that seems to be the consensus thus far with all of my other viewers. However, your opinion is still valid! If it bored you, then I as a performer need to improve!
I'm not exactly sure what you mean when you say that the hammer blast video started out chaotic, because it definitely sits in the tempo pretty well, and I keep track of the one. But aside from that, yes, its pretty much an unstructured solo. Its pretty much just a snapshot of the speed exercises that I run through. I agree with you on the math metal video, that riff just loops, so there's no song structure whatsoever. Not terribly interesting, unless you're a drummer :D
I've actually recently begun leaning into jazz and fusion more and more. Mainly just for the independence exercises, that stuff is insane.
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Agree with Prof on the repetition. Try to mix it up with more/longer fills.
Also, most of the time bass is played without a pick.
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Hey everyone, I updated this thread with new videos at the top, check it out and let me know what you think!
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Maybe if you buy about 10x more drums, you could be Dream Theater's temporary drummer until Mike (inevitably) returns. :P
Some good stuff though. I really liked the hammer blast beat one.
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Maybe if you buy about 10x more drums, you could be Dream Theater's temporary drummer until Mike (inevitably) returns. :P
Some good stuff though. I really liked the hammer blast beat one.
Haha, Mike has always liked those monster sets, hasn't he :D I'm just curious to see who actually winds up filling his throne... got any opinions on that?
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I like the new ones, especially the orchestral one.
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I like the new ones, especially the orchestral one.
Glad to hear that, thanks for stopping by!
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Great job, Luke! Next time, show your two brothers watching you -- lol. Who was that one you hit while bothering you?
How is everyone? Who is the eldest among the three of you again?
Say hi to the family from the Long Island group.
Godbless!
ROY
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Great job, Luke! Next time, show your two brothers watching you -- lol. Who was that one you hit while bothering you?
How is everyone? Who is the eldest among the three of you again?
Say hi to the family from the Long Island group.
Godbless!
ROY
I'm the oldest, Tim was the one who interrupted my session, he's the youngest :D We're all doing well, I'll convey your message. Thank you, and its nice to hear from you again Roy!
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Hip Hop Drumming - I liked it. It was good to see how your parts fit into an overall song. Nothing really jumped out at me specifically from a drums perspective. On the other hand, I really liked how your personality came out in this one. Your brother messing with you and your enjoyment of getting him back made the clip become more than simply a random person playing the drums. And your comments explaining the whole thing were well-written and funny. This was my favorite one to watch.
Just to give some context as to what really impresses me with drumming: I am not a drummer really, so something has to be pretty unusual to really grab my attention. The things that have impressed me most over the years are times when people use unusual things to make percussion sounds. My favorite drum solo for instance was a Whiteheart concert at Ichthus MANY years ago when the drummer blasts away for a little while playing really fast and then stops, pulls out 2 of those bright orange whiffle-ball bats that kids use, and then uses those as drumsticks and blasts away again in a blur of orange. It was amazing. I also really enjoyed a concert with a group of drummers who did all kinds of weirdness. My favorite was a song of theirs where all 4 of them were sitting at a table playing cards, and they used the stuff they were playing with (the cards, the coke cans, the cups, the poker chips, etc.) to make all the noises, and they put together a song while at the same time looking like they were playing a game. It was also amazing.
Epic Orchestral Drumming - I suspect this will be the most popular one here on the forum as there seem to be a lot of people who are really into this kind of music. However, I found that it was hard to really show off you skills in a piece like this. When the music was loud, it was hard to hear anything you were playing other than the cymbals. Also, in this style of music one of the guitar parts really acts like a drum, driving the beat. That also competes with your sound. On a side note, you have a LOT of different cymbals in your set, but I can't seem to tell much difference between them (except for the highest one).
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Prof Underwood - Thanks for taking the time to write such a long reply! I appreciate it. I get where you're coming from. You want to be entertained! For me, the music itself is what holds interest, I could personally care less what gimmick the drummer is using. But thats because I'm a musician, I look at it differently :)
As far as the orchestral metal piece, I played the drum part specifically for the music, not to show off. To play understatedly and keep it solid is a skill in and of itself, and is something that is absolutely required in the world of studio musicians. I also mixed the drums lower to that same end. The rhythm guitar, bass guitar, and drums all function together as the rhythm section, and I mixed it to where I don't stand out; that was the goal.
As far as not being able to hear anything other than the cymbals or being able to tell the difference in sound, I'm very much confused on that front. I have an extremely eclectic spread of cymbals, everything from an insanely bright little 6" splash to a monstrously dark and complex 22" K custom dry ride, not sure what the deal is. Are you listening on laptop speakers or something?
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As far as the orchestral metal piece, I played the drum part specifically for the music, not to show off. To play understatedly and keep it solid is a skill in and of itself, and is something that is absolutely required in the world of studio musicians. I also mixed the drums lower to that same end. The rhythm guitar, bass guitar, and drums all function together as the rhythm section, and I mixed it to where I don't stand out; that was the goal.
While I'm not a musician myself, I completely agree. Unless you're playing a solo in a song, or simply playing by yourself, the objective is to work together, not stand out.
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I played the drum part specifically for the music, not to show off..., and I mixed it to where I don't stand out; that was the goal.
That makes sense, and I would say that you achieved your goal.
I have an extremely eclectic spread of cymbals, everything from an insanely bright little 6" splash to a monstrously dark and complex 22" K custom dry ride, not sure what the deal is.
Firstly, my speakers are terrible. Secondly, I think this is also probably due to the fact that I am NOT really a drummer. Someone with a better ear for it could probably tell the difference without any trouble :)
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As far as the orchestral metal piece, I played the drum part specifically for the music, not to show off. To play understatedly and keep it solid is a skill in and of itself, and is something that is absolutely required in the world of studio musicians. I also mixed the drums lower to that same end. The rhythm guitar, bass guitar, and drums all function together as the rhythm section, and I mixed it to where I don't stand out; that was the goal.
While I'm not a musician myself, I completely agree. Unless you're playing a solo in a song, or simply playing by yourself, the objective is to work together, not stand out.
Yes, I think this is an important concept. It has certainly made me more desirable as a drummer to other musicians, and I have seen firsthand the negative effects of a drummer who has an ego and makes his presence well known. Laying down a good groove and staying out of the way will get you the gigs!
I played the drum part specifically for the music, not to show off..., and I mixed it to where I don't stand out; that was the goal.
That makes sense, and I would say that you achieved your goal.
I have an extremely eclectic spread of cymbals, everything from an insanely bright little 6" splash to a monstrously dark and complex 22" K custom dry ride, not sure what the deal is.
Firstly, my speakers are terrible. Secondly, I think this is also probably due to the fact that I am NOT really a drummer. Someone with a better ear for it could probably tell the difference without any trouble :)
Ah! If your speakers are putting out poor sound quality, thats where the problem lies! Its a shame, because I have been blessed with a very nice cymbal setup. I have had very good luck getting used cymbals at very good prices. I wish you could hear them in all their glory, haha :D
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Yes, I think this is an important concept. It has certainly made me more desirable as a drummer to other musicians, and I have seen firsthand the negative effects of a drummer who has an ego and makes his presence well known. Laying down a good groove and staying out of the way will get you the gigs!
This is why so many bands break up. Too many ego centric people who want the glory. It's a good reason to stay humble. It's very difficult to make good music with even a four person band.
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Yes, I think this is an important concept. It has certainly made me more desirable as a drummer to other musicians, and I have seen firsthand the negative effects of a drummer who has an ego and makes his presence well known. Laying down a good groove and staying out of the way will get you the gigs!
This is why so many bands break up. Too many ego centric people who want the glory. It's a good reason to stay humble. It's very difficult to make good music with even a four person band.
Absolutely, I've seen it many times! You also have to be able to take correction and instruction without getting upset, its pretty much mandatory. Otherwise, you had better be the best musician around, or you won't get asked back :D
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And even then you're a prima donna, and will get dumped for the next guy who's even remotely humble.
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And even then you're a prima donna, and will get dumped for the next guy who's even remotely humble.
Exactly! Pretty much the only guy that could get away with something like that is Buddy Rich, supposedly he was horrible to work with! But what a drummer, people put up with it just because of his abilities.
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Actually, what's unusual is to find a drum set with more drums than cymbals. My setup is pretty standard, 5 piece, 1 up 2 down, ride, hats, 2 crashes, then some splashes and FX cymbals.
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Then there's his other drum kit he doesn't show off very frequently... mostly because it takes him so long to set it up to take pictures of it!
(https://www.cactusforums.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mikeportnoy.com%2Fimages%2Fmiragediag.jpg&hash=e5ab6087f4f112c1db7744398ec5ffb314a0a8cd)
Oh wait, his name isn't mike......
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Then there's his other drum kit he doesn't show off very frequently... mostly because it takes him so long to set it up to take pictures of it!
Oh wait, his name isn't mike......
Thats about as big as Bozzio's kit:
(https://www.cactusforums.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi176.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fw193%2Fdiegopix%2Fterry_bozzio_drumset2.jpg&hash=872d67af202dafaa9dafc68c2f9f3cace11662ee)
Dude, you have 9(?) cymbals, The most I've seen are 4 cymbals with a five piece set. Or 9 cymbals with a 7 piece set.
And what Is "1 up 2 down" and what is a FX cymbal?
Its actually pretty common for a drummer to play a 4 or 5 piece, and have 7 or more (sometimes many more) cymbals. You have hats, ride, 2 or 3 crashes, 1 or 2 splashes, and then all the FX cymbals on top of that. 1 up 2 down refers to the tom configuration. I have one tom up on the rack, and two down on one of Tama's tom stands. FX cymbals would be basically anything that isn't a splash, crash, ride, or hats. That would include bells, chinas, stacks, etc.
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Then there's his other drum kit he doesn't show off very frequently... mostly because it takes him so long to set it up to take pictures of it!
Oh wait, his name isn't mike......
Thats about as big as Bozzio's kit:
(https://www.cactusforums.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi176.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fw193%2Fdiegopix%2Fterry_bozzio_drumset2.jpg&hash=872d67af202dafaa9dafc68c2f9f3cace11662ee)
LOLOLOL. So many pedals!
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I know, right? Haha :D Its pretty crazy, haven't really seen anything else like it. Takes his crew pretty much a full day to set up... ridiculous!
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The drums were pretty good... How old are you? I judged about 15 or 16 from what I could tell in the vids, but not sure.
I was expecting a more heavy beat for the songs with "metal" in the title. Do you listen to bands like For Today?
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The drums were pretty good... How old are you? I judged about 15 or 16 from what I could tell in the vids, but not sure.
I was expecting a more heavy beat for the songs with "metal" in the title. Do you listen to bands like For Today?
I'm 19, the drum track I did for that song remained fairly true to the original, so you can take it up with the composer, heh ;) I listen to pretty much every style of music out there.
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Haha, I thought you were younger than that, but oh well...
For Today's drumlines are amazing, but they aren't that hard to play. That's how REAL heavy metal is played.
And, they're Christian. Which is awesome.
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To be frank, theres a TON of different categories under "metal drumming"...
Metal can range from slow and heavy, (sometimes no double bass at all), to blistering power or thrash metal speeds (Almost entirely double bass).
It all depends on the style you like best.
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its better than any drum set evar.
RIP rev
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That is so ugly...
just because mommy and daddy hate skulls and won't let you listen to real music doesn't mean you have to hate on it. :-X
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country solo:
Chicken Pickin Guitar Solo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceX69psSCC8#)
real metal (aka a real mans) solo:
Slash solo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOwFkTGndGk#)
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Haha, I thought you were younger than that, but oh well...
For Today's drumlines are amazing, but they aren't that hard to play. That's how REAL heavy metal is played.
And, they're Christian. Which is awesome.
For Today isn't really heavy metal, its more along the lines of metalcore. You want to hear some pretty good drumming in the Christian metal scene, check out Becoming the Archetype. Death metal is where the crazy drum parts are at, if you can stomach it.
metal drumming is tough, You have a dual pedal for your kick drum. So while you play with both hands, you also play with both feet. I don't think it's just for metal drumming though, I figured techno uses the metal peddle to make the beat faster.
Playing double bass really isn't that difficult, almost every style of music requires 4 way independence at some level with your left foot on the hats. The difficulty arises when you're pushing the speed boundaries (220+ I would say) but its the same problem with the hands and feet.
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its better than any drum set evar.
RIP rev
You of course know that Portnoy is now rocking A7X ;)
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its better than any drum set evar.
RIP rev
You of course know that Portnoy is now rocking A7X ;)
I do and I think he will never replace the rev, but he will do him justice :)
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its better than any drum set evar.
RIP rev
You of course know that Portnoy is now rocking A7X ;)
I do and I think he will never replace the rev, but he will do him justice :)
I agree with that assessment. Although I'm not really into A7X at all, only listened to a couple songs. Portnoy is killer, man.
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Now that is pretty legitimately awesome. Talk about coordination.
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For Today is one of few Christian bands that can actually contend with the non-Christian bands, in that they have ridiculously AWESOME bass drops. Becoming the Archetype is pretty good, their Physics of Fire album has some crazy good melodies. In the Midst of Lions has some less-conspicuous bass drops, but they are also up there with For Today (not as good, but close).
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For Today is one of few Christian bands that can actually contend with the non-Christian bands, in that they have ridiculously AWESOME bass drops. Becoming the Archetype is pretty good, their Physics of Fire album has some crazy good melodies. In the Midst of Lions has some less-conspicuous bass drops, but they are also up there with For Today (not as good, but close).
I just can't wait for BTA's next album. In fact, I was talking to their keyboard player about possibly doing some work with them on it ;) They have written a couple of my favorite songs of all time in the death metal genre. Ever hear End of Age and Evil Unseen? Check those out!
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Hey everyone, just added a new video to the first post of this thread: NASTY Funk Drumming, First Take! - Luke Snyder (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JXZJj6h-ZI#)
Its a first take recording of a funk tune that I wrote. Let me know what you think!
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It sounds good. The only thing I would change is the sound of the hi-hat, I didn't hear it.
And do you have those clip on mics for your drum set? and do you use a soft wear for your computer? If so, what kind? I would like to get into techno drumming by using the clip on mics and making the noises of the drum sound weird, but I don't know how much all of it would cost and how much the program would be.
Thats odd, the hats come through nice and high in the mix.
You can cheap rim clip mic packs for around $200, but you'll also need an interface with around 6-8 mic pres (since you'd be close micing, that will run you at around $300) and you also need Logic or Pro Tools, which will run you between $200 - $500. Basically, it costs a grand to get a recording setup going for a drum set, plus the cost of the drums and computer, of course.
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I have a computer. And would audacity work? I think it's free. And I should be getting a drum set for my 16th B-day.
You need a fully functioning DAW that can deal with multitrack recording, heavy digital manipulation, and your sequencing needs. Logic would probably wind up being the best choice in the long run. I really like Pro Tools though myself, just because I'm more familiar with it.
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Audacity definitely won't work for this.
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Don't we all. Enjoy the disposable income while it lasts.
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For Today is one of few Christian bands that can actually contend with the non-Christian bands, in that they have ridiculously AWESOME bass drops. Becoming the Archetype is pretty good, their Physics of Fire album has some crazy good melodies. In the Midst of Lions has some less-conspicuous bass drops, but they are also up there with For Today (not as good, but close).
I just can't wait for BTA's next album. In fact, I was talking to their keyboard player about possibly doing some work with them on it ;) They have written a couple of my favorite songs of all time in the death metal genre. Ever hear End of Age and Evil Unseen? Check those out!
I'm pretty sure I've only listened to their album Dichotomy like twice, but I'm sure I liked it... Will download it today to my Zune.
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For Today is one of few Christian bands that can actually contend with the non-Christian bands, in that they have ridiculously AWESOME bass drops. Becoming the Archetype is pretty good, their Physics of Fire album has some crazy good melodies. In the Midst of Lions has some less-conspicuous bass drops, but they are also up there with For Today (not as good, but close).
I just can't wait for BTA's next album. In fact, I was talking to their keyboard player about possibly doing some work with them on it ;) They have written a couple of my favorite songs of all time in the death metal genre. Ever hear End of Age and Evil Unseen? Check those out!
I'm pretty sure I've only listened to their album Dichotomy like twice, but I'm sure I liked it... Will download it today to my Zune.
Make sure you actually buy it and support them, they're awesome dudes!
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One of the best. I use "How Great Thou Art" to prove that one can be metal and still Christian.
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One of the best. I use "How Great Thou Art" to prove that one can be metal and still Christian.
I enjoy that tune. Its right up there with "End of Age" IMHO.
Hey guys, I just started a new account on Bandcamp, check it out, I think its pretty cool! http://lukesnyder.bandcamp.com/ (http://lukesnyder.bandcamp.com/)
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tags: metal orchestral prog sypmphonic Pennsylvania
I didn't know "Pennsylvania" was a genera. Song's great though.
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tags: metal orchestral prog sypmphonic Pennsylvania
I didn't know "Pennsylvania" was a genera. Song's great though.
Haha, its not. Its a regional tag that is added automatically based on my location ;) Glad you enjoyed the tune, I really like that one myself. Once I get some stuff finalized, I'm going to be releasing my albums on there. I'm pretty excited about it, actually.
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Full albums? Sweet! Here's hoping you do well in your music career.
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Full albums? Sweet! Here's hoping you do well in your music career.
Yup, but I think I'll just wet my feet with an EP first, I have at least a couple hours of music written already though, haha. Thank you very much for your kind words!
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Here's my latest video, more drum lessons to come, for anyone who is interested!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDiSgXVVcGA
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I am having a real hard time hearing you in this.
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I am having a real hard time hearing you in this.
Thanks for the feedback, I'm still currently trying to figure out a better way to do the audio for these lessons. In that video, I was just using the overheads to pick up my voice, and I used some volume automation to bring my voice up higher when I was speaking. Its definitely not enough though, I think I have to stick a separate vocal mic on there, haha.
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New drum lesson video, for anyone who's interested. I decided to simply use the audio from the camera while I'm talking, that makes it a lot easier, and the level is now high enough, you should be able to hear me fine now!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRRWzNpP4fM
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Here's another lesson, for any drummers here that might be interested :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDkIbnLTKQQ
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Check out my latest video! This is just me having a jam over a black metal riff. Hope you enjoy!
Black Metal Drumming FAIL - Luke Snyder (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjOsk0l4GI0#)
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Bumped for The Music Maker.
Luke, keep in touch with us, son.
We also wish you and your brothers could come back even for one big tourney, like Regionals.
Keep in touch.
Godbless, son!