Author Topic: Dr. Who: The Impossible Astronaut Spoilers (Read 20765 times)

SomeKittens · « **on:** April 24, 2011, 11:57:54 PM »

Was I the only one who cheered when it looked like Matt Smith would regenerate? He's not bad, it's Moffat I've got a vendetta against. I prefer the Davies brilliant subtlety to Moffat's "The Doctor is a Demigod"

Warrior_Monk · « **Reply #1 on:** April 25, 2011, 12:01:19 AM »

Matt Smith is great. Almost as great as Tennant. I like Moffat's big works, his fluffy episodes are pretty awful. Blink, Girl in the Fireplace, and some of the last season episodes that I don't know the title of were great. It's true that he exalts the Doctor a bit too much.

I figured he'd die. It was so random though. I like that this season (and last) actually has a plot though. The whole "The Daleks are back" got really old...

Rawrlolsauce! · « **Reply #2 on:** April 25, 2011, 12:05:18 AM »

Moffat is a lot more skilled then Davies. Girl in the Fireplace, Library Series, Blink. Davies is one of my least favorite writers beings he took away the impact of dying, which is something Moffat has continued.

SomeKittens · « **Reply #3 on:** April 25, 2011, 12:16:52 AM »

I like Moffat as a writer, Blink was great. I don't like him in charge.

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #4 on:** April 25, 2011, 12:41:52 AM »

I would have agreed last season, but I really love how this season is starting out.

Warrior_Monk · « **Reply #5 on:** April 25, 2011, 01:12:39 AM »

My one worry about this season is that it'll get old. I just don't see how they're going to keep the spaceman thing coming around, and with the Doctor dying, there's no way that the companions will let the Doctor get sidetracked with other things.

SomeKittens · « **Reply #6 on:** April 25, 2011, 01:24:17 AM »

Starting with the death kind of cheapened it for me. I understand the point of a cliffhanger, but a "true" death? (C'mon, they're not actually going to kill him)

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #7 on:** April 25, 2011, 06:35:04 AM »

Quote from: Ring Wraith on April 25, 2011, 01:12:39 AM

My one worry about this season is that it'll get old. I just don't see how they're going to keep the spaceman thing coming around, and with the Doctor dying, there's no way that the companions will let the Doctor get sidetracked with other things.

Well, remember, the doctor that died is 200 years older than the "current" doctor, so he could sidetrack for the rest of Amy's life and still have a good amount of time to figure out what's up.

Rawrlolsauce! · « **Reply #8 on:** April 25, 2011, 09:24:13 AM »

They claimed the season focused on The Silence and River Song, so the astronaut probably won't stick around. Unless the astronaut is heavily related to one of the two or, you know, The Rani.

Warrior_Monk · « **Reply #9 on:** May 01, 2011, 06:35:12 PM »

Just watched the second episode. The astronaut is The Rani. Not sure I'm going to like this season...

Conspiracy theory. River Song is the Doctor's daughter.

Rawrlolsauce! · « **Reply #10 on:** May 14, 2011, 10:00:03 PM »

Regarding the newest episode......

3 minutes in: yayayayayayay it might be happening yayayayayay
8 minutes in: nononononono it's happening again Moffat better not have written this ohgood Moffat didn't write this but nonononono it's happening again.
14 minutes in: yayayayayayay it's not happening again and der be some old who yayayayayay.

That was a really good episode. I hope they keep the writer around for a while. Great quotes too, and some nice foreshadowing about either River (possibly Amy?). And this episode supports that it isn't impossible for the Doctor to be the Rani.

SomeKittens · « **Reply #11 on:** May 14, 2011, 11:03:46 PM »

River Song had better not be the doctor's daughter.

Incidentally, David Tennant is engaged to the actor who played the daughter.

Rawrlolsauce! · « **Reply #12 on:** May 15, 2011, 07:30:09 PM »

She's also the daughter of the 5th doctor.

Back to the main point, fantastic episode. Best since Blink easily.

Warrior_Monk · « **Reply #13 on:** May 15, 2011, 08:44:52 PM »

River Song has to be what the Tardis was referring to with the "No water in the forest..." line. It's too obvious though...

Agreed. But it still has nothing on Blink...

Rawrlolsauce! · « **Reply #14 on:** May 15, 2011, 08:58:02 PM »

It might be Amy / the little girl from the second episode, but is more likely The Doctor trying to save River from the Forest of the Dead (inb4 Pol calls paradox).

This episode was way more quotable then Blink. "Biting. It's like kissing only there's a winner.", "I wanted to see the universe, so I stole a Time Lord." and "I'm a mad man with a box without a box" are all better lines then Timey Wimey.

Prof Underwood · « **Reply #15 on:** May 16, 2011, 12:18:44 AM »

I've actually been a bit disappointed so far this season. Last season had great moral dilemmas and really got me to care about the characters (The Beast Below, The Hungry Earth/Cold Blood, Amy's Choice).

"The Christmas Carol" was an awesome start to the year really showcasing the time-traveling aspect of the show, and how the Doctor both helps and hurts when he changes things.

But since then, the rest of the shows this season just haven't resonated with me. The Astronaut/Day of the Moon episodes created some decent questions about future. But they weren't really that interesting by themselves. The Black Spot had a nice surprise ending, but seemed to be more about the special effects than the characters. And the Drs. Wife was an interesting concept, but seemed to move to fast for me. I think it would have made a better 2-parter. I just didn't care about most of the characters in the episode, and parts of it didn't make any sense. Rory already waited 2000 years for Amy, why would he go insane and start hating her after just waiting for 50 more?

Warrior_Monk · « **Reply #16 on:** May 16, 2011, 12:29:16 AM »

I actually think this has potential to be the best season.

The first two episodes were gripping, and brought LOADS of options for future episodes. The Doctor's daughter, the silence, and The Doctor's death. The bit about them forgetting the silence whenever they looked away was brilliant. I agree that it isn't as interesting as it has been in the past, but it's had much better plots and much better attention grabbing awesomeness.
The third episode was okay. It was a pretty good filler, actually. The two realities stacking on top of each other was pretty interesting, and there were some really funny parts. "We're sailers! Just like you! Well, except for the guns...and the beardyness..."
The last episode was the best episode since Blink. Being outside of the universe for starters was especially curious, and the TARDIS coming to life was amazing. Not to mention the quotability (which Sauce already covered). I agree that it should have been a two parter. Just because it was awesome enough.
As for the inconsistencies, Amy isn't one who thinks everything through. Plus, the TARDIS was being messed with, and she was confused, and somewhat ignorant of what the TARDIS can and can't do, so she was even more confused.

Prof Underwood · « **Reply #17 on:** May 16, 2011, 12:57:43 AM »

Quote from: Ring Wraith on May 16, 2011, 12:29:16 AM

I actually think this has potential to be the best season.

I agree that there is great potential, I just don't think it's been realized yet.

Quote from: Ring Wraith on May 16, 2011, 12:29:16 AM

The bit about them forgetting the silence whenever they looked away was brilliant.

I agree that was a cool concept. But the silence weren't interesting as enemies. They were just pure evil and therefore, were too simplistic. And there were no negative consequences to stopping them, so the Drs actions were never moral dilemmas. And the ultimate solution was anti-climatic. Saving the world with a cell phone camera....really?

Quote from: Ring Wraith on May 16, 2011, 12:29:16 AM

there were some really funny parts. "We're sailers! Just like you! Well, except for the guns...and the beardyness..."

I agree that there have been some funny scenes/lines this year.

Quote from: Ring Wraith on May 16, 2011, 12:29:16 AM

Being outside of the universe for starters was especially curious

Actually this was also anti-climatic. It would have been interesting if things worked fundamentally differently "outside the universe", but it ended up being just the same as here. In fact, that whole part of the episode could have just have easily taken place on a junkyard asteroid in our own galaxy.

Quote from: Ring Wraith on May 16, 2011, 12:29:16 AM

, and the TARDIS coming to life was amazing.

This wasn't nearly as cool as the Star Trek:TNG episode when the holodeck character of Moriarty came to life, or the ST:Voyager series where the holographic Doctor deals with being real quite regularly.

SomeKittens · « **Reply #18 on:** May 16, 2011, 01:01:50 AM »

Meh. Yes, it was a good show, but not OMGWTMBBQ of season 4.5. Nice cameo appearance by the old TARDIS.

Rawrlolsauce! · « **Reply #19 on:** May 16, 2011, 01:09:05 AM »

The Christmas Carol was probably my least favorite episode in a while, actually. Little quotability, rewatch value, heavily filler, etc. The first two episodes were fairly good starts, above average I'd say at least. The third episode was obviously filler, but it was still decent.

Beings I loved the premise, and the Tardis was absolutely amazing, it would have been nice to have two parts. However, the extended time would have likely detracted from the ending. This episode just had so much going for it. Auntie and Uncle were great characters, and as mentioned the Tardis was fantastic. The cubes really brought back some of the old Who which was really fun. There was some great foreshadowing (The Tardis on River (probably), potentially Rory referring to the Silence).

As for Rory getting mad, there are two things that should be considered. Firstly, that wasn't Rory. It was House. Although House may have taken the feelings from Rory, that isn't specifically Rory. Secondly, Rory and Amy's relationship has been changing throughout the series, it seems like they all realize that Amy isn't sure if she likes the Doctor more then Rory.

This episode also really started to explore the Doctor more. Not only his relationship with the Tardis, but how harsh he is going to be. It's pretty clear he took the 10th's playfulness and the 9th's unforgiving attitude, and he's really starting to display the latter. He may turn out as dark as the 7th (who was the best doctor, obviously) was. He didn't care about the people used to keep Auntie and Uncle alive (expect for his Time Lord buddy), he didn't show much emotion about the Ood dying, and he really lost control of his emotions after finding the cubes. I also don't seem to recall him giving House a warning, which he has given his other opponents (even after they try to kill him).

I think traveling outside the universe may actually be setting things up, also. I believe Tennant said it wasn't possible, but the Old Ones disagree.

SomeKittens · « **Reply #20 on:** May 16, 2011, 01:37:01 AM »

Traveling outside of our dimension with two companions romantically interested in each other, ending up in a world with lots of strange vehicles, the TARDIS completely on the fritz, a character previously mentioned, but not explored before comes to life, and the Doctor heroically saves the day with his mad skillz and the companions ... heroicness? Also: should have been a two-parter.

Hmm.. Why does this all sound so familiar?

lp670sv · « **Reply #21 on:** May 16, 2011, 01:56:26 AM »

Quote from: SomeKittens on May 16, 2011, 01:37:01 AM

Traveling outside of our dimension with two companions romantically interested in each other, ending up in a world with lots of strange vehicles, the TARDIS completely on the fritz, a character previously mentioned, but not explored before comes to life, and the Doctor heroically saves the day with his mad skillz and the companions ... heroicness? Also: should have been a two-parter.

Hmm.. Why does this all sound so familiar?

/conspiracy theory

Prof Underwood · « **Reply #22 on:** May 16, 2011, 02:01:57 AM »

Quote from: Rawrlolsauce! on May 16, 2011, 01:09:05 AM

Auntie and Uncle were great characters

Really? I just didn't care when they died, did you? Compare that to how you felt when Billy died in Blink, or how you felt when the Silurian got tazered to death in the Hungry Earth/Cold Blood.

Quote from: Rawrlolsauce! on May 16, 2011, 01:09:05 AM

The Christmas Carol was probably my least favorite episode in a while, actually. Little quotability

Really? Were you watching the same episode as I did?

The Doctor: Father Christmas. Santa Claus. Or, as I've always known him, "Jeff".

Amy: Have you got a plan yet?
The Doctor: Yes, I do.
Amy: Are you lying?
The Doctor: Yes, I am.
Amy: Don't treat me like an idiot.
Rory: (overhearing) Is he lying?
Amy: No, no."

The Doctor: Dangerous? Come on, we're boys. And you know what boys say in the face of danger.
Young Kazran: What?
The Doctor: "Mummy!"

Adult Kazran: Now? I kiss her now?
The Doctor: Kazran, trust me. It's this or go to a room and design a new kind of screwdriver. Don't make my mistakes.

The Doctor: Well, there's a moon that's made of actual honey. Well, not actual honey, and it's not actually a moon. And technically, it's alive and a bit carnivorous. But there are some lovely views.

The Doctor: Ooh, now what's this then? I love this. A big flashy lighty thing. That's what brought me here. Big flashy lighty things have got me written all over them. Not actually, but give me time, and a crayon.

SomeKittens · « **Reply #23 on:** May 16, 2011, 03:37:33 PM »

Speaking of all that:
http://www.redbubble.com/people/zerobriant/art/7141877-youll-miss-me-if-you-blink-twice

Warrior_Monk · « **Reply #24 on:** June 04, 2011, 01:15:54 AM »

"Better yet, I'll take you to a planet where everybody is all ears!"

So, the Doctor doesn't die. His Doppleganger somehow survives and then dies. Too simple for this show...

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