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Redemption® Collectible Trading Card Game HQ => Deck Building & Design => Deck Concepts => Topic started by: crustpope on August 04, 2009, 11:36:24 PM
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This is a quote from Robs Post here (http://www.cactusgamedesign.com/message_boards/index.php?topic=17095.0)
9) Deck Limits: no T1 Deck may contain more than 150 cards. No T2 Deck may contain more than 250 cards.
here is the deck list I built last night to abuse Gates of Hell. This is a Type 1 2 Player deck I built on RTS. Nick Archick came up with the Idea. I played it against Prof Underwood last night and I think it killed him :-\
Cards in deck: 999
Lost Souls: 162
Lost Soul (deck discard)
Lost Soul (deck discard)
Lost Soul (deck discard)
Lost Soul (deck discard)
Lost Soul (deck discard)
Lost Soul (deck discard)
Lost Soul (deck discard)
Lost Soul (deck discard)
Lost Soul (deck discard)
Lost Soul (deck discard)
Lost Soul (deck discard)
Lost Soul (deck discard)
Lost Soul (deck discard)
Lost Soul (deck discard)
Lost Soul (deck discard)
Lost Soul (deck discard)
Lost Soul (deck discard)
Lost Soul (deck discard)
Lost Soul (deck discard)
Lost Soul (deck discard)
Lost Soul (hopper)
Lost Soul (hopper)
Lost Soul (hopper)
Lost Soul (hopper)
Lost Soul (hopper)
Lost Soul (hopper)
Lost Soul (hopper)
Lost Soul (hopper)
Lost Soul (hopper)
Lost Soul (hopper)
Lost Soul (hopper)
Lost Soul (hopper)
Lost Soul (hopper)
Lost Soul (hopper)
Lost Soul (hopper)
Lost Soul (hopper)
Lost Soul (hopper)
Lost Soul (hopper)
Lost Soul (hopper)
Lost Soul (hopper)
Lost Soul (revealer)
Lost Soul (revealer)
Lost Soul (shuffler)
Lost Soul (shuffler)
Lost Soul (shuffler)
Lost Soul (shuffler)
Lost Soul (shuffler)
Lost Soul (shuffler)
Lost Soul (shuffler)
Lost Soul (shuffler)
Lost Soul (shuffler)
Lost Soul (shuffler)
Lost Soul (shuffler)
Lost Soul (shuffler)
Lost Soul (shuffler)
Lost Soul (shuffler)
Lost Soul (shuffler)
Lost Soul (shuffler)
Lost Soul (shuffler)
Lost Soul (shuffler)
Lost Soul (shuffler)
Lost Soul (shuffler)
Lost Soul (Site Discard)
Lost Soul (Site Discard)
Lost Soul (Site Discard)
Lost Soul (Site Discard)
Lost Soul (Site Discard)
Lost Soul (Site Discard)
Lost Soul (Site Discard)
Lost Soul (Site Discard)
Lost Soul (Site Discard)
Lost Soul (Site Discard)
Lost Soul (Site Discard)
Lost Soul (Site Discard)
Lost Soul (Site Discard)
Lost Soul (Site Discard)
Lost Soul (Site Discard)
Lost Soul (Site Discard)
Lost Soul (Site Discard)
Lost Soul (Site Discard)
Lost Soul (Site Discard)
Lost Soul (Site Discard)
Lost Soul (site doubler)
Lost Soul (site doubler)
Lost Soul (site doubler)
Lost Soul (site doubler)
Lost Soul (site doubler)
Lost Soul (site doubler)
Lost Soul (site doubler)
Lost Soul (site doubler)
Lost Soul (site doubler)
Lost Soul (site doubler)
Lost Soul (site doubler)
Lost Soul (site doubler)
Lost Soul (site doubler)
Lost Soul (site doubler)
Lost Soul (site doubler)
Lost Soul (site doubler)
Lost Soul (site doubler)
Lost Soul (site doubler)
Lost Soul (site doubler)
Lost Soul (site doubler)
Lost Soul (site remove)
Lost Soul (site remove)
Lost Soul (site remove)
Lost Soul (site remove)
Lost Soul (site remove)
Lost Soul (site remove)
Lost Soul (site remove)
Lost Soul (site remove)
Lost Soul (site remove)
Lost Soul (site remove)
Lost Soul (site remove)
Lost Soul (site remove)
Lost Soul (site remove)
Lost Soul (site remove)
Lost Soul (site remove)
Lost Soul (site remove)
Lost Soul (site remove)
Lost Soul (site remove)
Lost Soul (site remove)
Lost Soul (site remove)
Lost Soul (Wanderer)
Lost Soul (Wanderer)
Lost Soul (Wanderer)
Lost Soul (Wanderer)
Lost Soul (Wanderer)
Lost Soul (Wanderer)
Lost Soul (Wanderer)
Lost Soul (Wanderer)
Lost Soul (Wanderer)
Lost Soul (Wanderer)
Lost Soul (Wanderer)
Lost Soul (Wanderer)
Lost Soul (Wanderer)
Lost Soul (Wanderer)
Lost Soul (Wanderer)
Lost Soul (Wanderer)
Lost Soul (Wanderer)
Lost Soul (Wanderer)
Lost Soul (Wanderer)
Lost Soul (Wanderer)
Lost Souls (3-line)
Lost Souls (3-line)
Lost Souls (3-line)
Lost Souls (3-line)
Lost Souls (3-line)
Lost Souls (3-line)
Lost Souls (3-line)
Lost Souls (3-line)
Lost Souls (3-line)
Lost Souls (3-line)
Lost Souls (3-line)
Lost Souls (3-line)
Lost Souls (3-line)
Lost Souls (3-line)
Lost Souls (3-line)
Lost Souls (3-line)
Lost Souls (3-line)
Lost Souls (3-line)
Lost Souls (3-line)
Lost Souls (3-line)
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Fortresses: 80
High Places
High Places
High Places
High Places
High Places
High Places
High Places
High Places
High Places
High Places
High Places
High Places
High Places
High Places
High Places
High Places
High Places
High Places
High Places
High Places
The Gates of Hell
The Gates of Hell
The Gates of Hell
The Gates of Hell
The Gates of Hell
The Gates of Hell
The Gates of Hell
The Gates of Hell
The Gates of Hell
The Gates of Hell
The Gates of Hell
The Gates of Hell
The Gates of Hell
The Gates of Hell
The Gates of Hell
The Gates of Hell
The Gates of Hell
The Gates of Hell
The Gates of Hell
The Gates of Hell
Wall of Protection
Wall of Protection
Wall of Protection
Wall of Protection
Wall of Protection
Wall of Protection
Wall of Protection
Wall of Protection
Wall of Protection
Wall of Protection
Wall of Protection
Wall of Protection
Wall of Protection
Wall of Protection
Wall of Protection
Wall of Protection
Wall of Protection
Wall of Protection
Wall of Protection
Wall of Protection
Zerubbabel's Temple
Zerubbabel's Temple
Zerubbabel's Temple
Zerubbabel's Temple
Zerubbabel's Temple
Zerubbabel's Temple
Zerubbabel's Temple
Zerubbabel's Temple
Zerubbabel's Temple
Zerubbabel's Temple
Zerubbabel's Temple
Zerubbabel's Temple
Zerubbabel's Temple
Zerubbabel's Temple
Zerubbabel's Temple
Zerubbabel's Temple
Zerubbabel's Temple
Zerubbabel's Temple
Zerubbabel's Temple
Zerubbabel's Temple
Multi-Color Sites: 4
Dragon Raid
New Jerusalem (site)
Promised Land
The Ends of the Earth
White Sites: 20
Jericho
Jericho
Jericho
Jericho
Jericho
Jericho
Jericho
Jericho
Jericho
Jericho
Jericho
Jericho
Jericho
Jericho
Jericho
Jericho
Jericho
Jericho
Jericho
Jericho
Red Sites: 20
Babylon
Babylon
Babylon
Babylon
Babylon
Babylon
Babylon
Babylon
Babylon
Babylon
Babylon
Babylon
Babylon
Babylon
Babylon
Babylon
Babylon
Babylon
Babylon
Babylon
Gold Sites: 20
Kir
Kir
Kir
Kir
Kir
Kir
Kir
Kir
Kir
Kir
Kir
Kir
Kir
Kir
Kir
Kir
Kir
Kir
Kir
Kir
Green Sites: 20
Babylonian Banquet Hall
Babylonian Banquet Hall
Babylonian Banquet Hall
Babylonian Banquet Hall
Babylonian Banquet Hall
Babylonian Banquet Hall
Babylonian Banquet Hall
Babylonian Banquet Hall
Babylonian Banquet Hall
Babylonian Banquet Hall
Babylonian Banquet Hall
Babylonian Banquet Hall
Babylonian Banquet Hall
Babylonian Banquet Hall
Babylonian Banquet Hall
Babylonian Banquet Hall
Babylonian Banquet Hall
Babylonian Banquet Hall
Babylonian Banquet Hall
Babylonian Banquet Hall
Blue Sites: 20
Hormah
Hormah
Hormah
Hormah
Hormah
Hormah
Hormah
Hormah
Hormah
Hormah
Hormah
Hormah
Hormah
Hormah
Hormah
Hormah
Hormah
Hormah
Hormah
Hormah
Purple Sites: 20
Pergamum
Pergamum
Pergamum
Pergamum
Pergamum
Pergamum
Pergamum
Pergamum
Pergamum
Pergamum
Pergamum
Pergamum
Pergamum
Pergamum
Pergamum
Pergamum
Pergamum
Pergamum
Pergamum
Pergamum
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Artifacts: 80
Altar of Ahaz
Altar of Ahaz
Altar of Ahaz
Altar of Ahaz
Altar of Ahaz
Altar of Ahaz
Altar of Ahaz
Altar of Ahaz
Altar of Ahaz
Altar of Ahaz
Altar of Ahaz
Altar of Ahaz
Altar of Ahaz
Altar of Ahaz
Altar of Ahaz
Altar of Ahaz
Altar of Ahaz
Altar of Ahaz
Altar of Ahaz
Altar of Ahaz
Hidden Treasures
Hidden Treasures
Hidden Treasures
Hidden Treasures
Hidden Treasures
Hidden Treasures
Hidden Treasures
Hidden Treasures
Hidden Treasures
Hidden Treasures
Hidden Treasures
Hidden Treasures
Hidden Treasures
Hidden Treasures
Hidden Treasures
Hidden Treasures
Hidden Treasures
Hidden Treasures
Hidden Treasures
Hidden Treasures
The Bronze Laver
The Bronze Laver
The Bronze Laver
The Bronze Laver
The Bronze Laver
The Bronze Laver
The Bronze Laver
The Bronze Laver
The Bronze Laver
The Bronze Laver
The Bronze Laver
The Bronze Laver
The Bronze Laver
The Bronze Laver
The Bronze Laver
The Bronze Laver
The Bronze Laver
The Bronze Laver
The Bronze Laver
The Bronze Laver
Unholy Writ
Unholy Writ
Unholy Writ
Unholy Writ
Unholy Writ
Unholy Writ
Unholy Writ
Unholy Writ
Unholy Writ
Unholy Writ
Unholy Writ
Unholy Writ
Unholy Writ
Unholy Writ
Unholy Writ
Unholy Writ
Unholy Writ
Unholy Writ
Unholy Writ
Unholy Writ
White Covenant Cards: 20
Unknown Nation (Yellow)
Unknown Nation (Yellow)
Unknown Nation (Yellow)
Unknown Nation (Yellow)
Unknown Nation (Yellow)
Unknown Nation (Yellow)
Unknown Nation (Yellow)
Unknown Nation (Yellow)
Unknown Nation (Yellow)
Unknown Nation (Yellow)
Unknown Nation (Yellow)
Unknown Nation (Yellow)
Unknown Nation (Yellow)
Unknown Nation (Yellow)
Unknown Nation (Yellow)
Unknown Nation (Yellow)
Unknown Nation (Yellow)
Unknown Nation (Yellow)
Unknown Nation (Yellow)
Unknown Nation (Yellow)
Gold Heroes: 40
Ehud
Ehud
Ehud
Ehud
Ehud
Ehud
Ehud
Ehud
Ehud
Ehud
Ehud
Ehud
Ehud
Ehud
Ehud
Ehud
Ehud
Ehud
Ehud
Ehud
Zaccheus
Zaccheus
Zaccheus
Zaccheus
Zaccheus
Zaccheus
Zaccheus
Zaccheus
Zaccheus
Zaccheus
Zaccheus
Zaccheus
Zaccheus
Zaccheus
Zaccheus
Zaccheus
Zaccheus
Zaccheus
Zaccheus
Zaccheus
Green Heroes: 20
Haggai
Haggai
Haggai
Haggai
Haggai
Haggai
Haggai
Haggai
Haggai
Haggai
Haggai
Haggai
Haggai
Haggai
Haggai
Haggai
Haggai
Haggai
Haggai
Haggai
Blue Heroes: 20
Jacob
Jacob
Jacob
Jacob
Jacob
Jacob
Jacob
Jacob
Jacob
Jacob
Jacob
Jacob
Jacob
Jacob
Jacob
Jacob
Jacob
Jacob
Jacob
Jacob
Gold Hero Enhancements: 40
Samson's Sacrifice
Samson's Sacrifice
Samson's Sacrifice
Samson's Sacrifice
Samson's Sacrifice
Samson's Sacrifice
Samson's Sacrifice
Samson's Sacrifice
Samson's Sacrifice
Samson's Sacrifice
Samson's Sacrifice
Samson's Sacrifice
Samson's Sacrifice
Samson's Sacrifice
Samson's Sacrifice
Samson's Sacrifice
Samson's Sacrifice
Samson's Sacrifice
Samson's Sacrifice
Samson's Sacrifice
Vengeance of Eternal Fire
Vengeance of Eternal Fire
Vengeance of Eternal Fire
Vengeance of Eternal Fire
Vengeance of Eternal Fire
Vengeance of Eternal Fire
Vengeance of Eternal Fire
Vengeance of Eternal Fire
Vengeance of Eternal Fire
Vengeance of Eternal Fire
Vengeance of Eternal Fire
Vengeance of Eternal Fire
Vengeance of Eternal Fire
Vengeance of Eternal Fire
Vengeance of Eternal Fire
Vengeance of Eternal Fire
Vengeance of Eternal Fire
Vengeance of Eternal Fire
Vengeance of Eternal Fire
Vengeance of Eternal Fire
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Green Hero Enhancements: 40
A New Beginning
A New Beginning
A New Beginning
A New Beginning
A New Beginning
A New Beginning
A New Beginning
A New Beginning
A New Beginning
A New Beginning
A New Beginning
A New Beginning
A New Beginning
A New Beginning
A New Beginning
A New Beginning
A New Beginning
A New Beginning
A New Beginning
A New Beginning
Search
Search
Search
Search
Search
Search
Search
Search
Search
Search
Search
Search
Search
Search
Search
Search
Search
Search
Search
Search
Blue Hero Enhancements: 20
Obedience of Noah
Obedience of Noah
Obedience of Noah
Obedience of Noah
Obedience of Noah
Obedience of Noah
Obedience of Noah
Obedience of Noah
Obedience of Noah
Obedience of Noah
Obedience of Noah
Obedience of Noah
Obedience of Noah
Obedience of Noah
Obedience of Noah
Obedience of Noah
Obedience of Noah
Obedience of Noah
Obedience of Noah
Obedience of Noah
Gold Evil Characters: 20
King of Tyrus
King of Tyrus
King of Tyrus
King of Tyrus
King of Tyrus
Obsidian Minion (1)
Obsidian Minion (1)
Obsidian Minion (1)
Obsidian Minion (1)
Obsidian Minion (1)
Obsidian Minion (2)
Obsidian Minion (2)
Obsidian Minion (2)
Obsidian Minion (2)
Obsidian Minion (2)
Obsidian Minion (3)
Obsidian Minion (3)
Obsidian Minion (3)
Obsidian Minion (3)
Obsidian Minion (3)
Brown Evil Characters: 30
Gomer
Gomer
Gomer
Gomer
Gomer
Gomer
Gomer
Gomer
Gomer
Gomer
Uzzah
Uzzah
Uzzah
Uzzah
Uzzah
Uzzah
Uzzah
Uzzah
Uzzah
Uzzah
Uzzah
Uzzah
Uzzah
Uzzah
Uzzah
Uzzah
Uzzah
Uzzah
Uzzah
Uzzah
Multi-Color Evil Enhancements: 122
Destructive Sin (Orange)
Destructive Sin (Orange)
Destructive Sin (Orange)
Destructive Sin (Orange)
Destructive Sin (Orange)
Destructive Sin (Orange)
Destructive Sin (Orange)
Destructive Sin (Orange)
Destructive Sin (Orange)
Destructive Sin (Orange)
Destructive Sin (Orange)
Destructive Sin (Orange)
Destructive Sin (Orange)
Destructive Sin (Orange)
Destructive Sin (Orange)
Destructive Sin (Orange)
Destructive Sin (Orange)
Destructive Sin (Orange)
Destructive Sin (Orange)
Destructive Sin (Orange)
Evil Armor (Orange)
Evil Armor (Orange)
Evil Armor (Orange)
Evil Armor (Orange)
Evil Armor (Orange)
Evil Armor (Orange)
Evil Armor (Orange)
Evil Armor (Orange)
Evil Armor (Orange)
Evil Armor (Orange)
Evil Armor (Orange)
Evil Armor (Orange)
Evil Armor (Orange)
Evil Armor (Orange)
Evil Armor (Orange)
Evil Armor (Orange)
Evil Armor (Orange)
Evil Armor (Orange)
Evil Armor (Orange)
Evil Armor (Orange)
Murmuring
Siegeworks
Sinning Hand (Orange)
Sinning Hand (Orange)
Sinning Hand (Orange)
Sinning Hand (Orange)
Sinning Hand (Orange)
Sinning Hand (Orange)
Sinning Hand (Orange)
Sinning Hand (Orange)
Sinning Hand (Orange)
Sinning Hand (Orange)
Sinning Hand (Orange)
Sinning Hand (Orange)
Sinning Hand (Orange)
Sinning Hand (Orange)
Sinning Hand (Orange)
Sinning Hand (Orange)
Sinning Hand (Orange)
Sinning Hand (Orange)
Sinning Hand (Orange)
Sinning Hand (Orange)
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The Power of Death (Orange)
The Power of Death (Orange)
The Power of Death (Orange)
The Power of Death (Orange)
The Power of Death (Orange)
The Power of Death (Orange)
The Power of Death (Orange)
The Power of Death (Orange)
The Power of Death (Orange)
The Power of Death (Orange)
The Power of Death (Orange)
The Power of Death (Orange)
The Power of Death (Orange)
The Power of Death (Orange)
The Power of Death (Orange)
The Power of Death (Orange)
The Power of Death (Orange)
The Power of Death (Orange)
The Power of Death (Orange)
The Power of Death (Orange)
Two Possessed by Demons (Orange)
Two Possessed by Demons (Orange)
Two Possessed by Demons (Orange)
Two Possessed by Demons (Orange)
Two Possessed by Demons (Orange)
Two Possessed by Demons (Orange)
Two Possessed by Demons (Orange)
Two Possessed by Demons (Orange)
Two Possessed by Demons (Orange)
Two Possessed by Demons (Orange)
Two Possessed by Demons (Orange)
Two Possessed by Demons (Orange)
Two Possessed by Demons (Orange)
Two Possessed by Demons (Orange)
Two Possessed by Demons (Orange)
Two Possessed by Demons (Orange)
Two Possessed by Demons (Orange)
Two Possessed by Demons (Orange)
Two Possessed by Demons (Orange)
Two Possessed by Demons (Orange)
Worshipping Demons (Orange)
Worshipping Demons (Orange)
Worshipping Demons (Orange)
Worshipping Demons (Orange)
Worshipping Demons (Orange)
Worshipping Demons (Orange)
Worshipping Demons (Orange)
Worshipping Demons (Orange)
Worshipping Demons (Orange)
Worshipping Demons (Orange)
Worshipping Demons (Orange)
Worshipping Demons (Orange)
Worshipping Demons (Orange)
Worshipping Demons (Orange)
Worshipping Demons (Orange)
Worshipping Demons (Orange)
Worshipping Demons (Orange)
Worshipping Demons (Orange)
Worshipping Demons (Orange)
Worshipping Demons (Orange)
Gold Evil Enhancements: 60
Evil Spirit
Evil Spirit
Evil Spirit
Evil Spirit
Evil Spirit
Evil Spirit
Evil Spirit
Evil Spirit
Evil Spirit
Evil Spirit
Evil Spirit
Evil Spirit
Evil Spirit
Evil Spirit
Evil Spirit
Evil Spirit
Evil Spirit
Evil Spirit
Evil Spirit
Evil Spirit
Spreading Mildew
Spreading Mildew
Spreading Mildew
Spreading Mildew
Spreading Mildew
Spreading Mildew
Spreading Mildew
Spreading Mildew
Spreading Mildew
Spreading Mildew
Spreading Mildew
Spreading Mildew
Spreading Mildew
Spreading Mildew
Spreading Mildew
Spreading Mildew
Spreading Mildew
Spreading Mildew
Spreading Mildew
Spreading Mildew
Wonders Forgotten
Wonders Forgotten
Wonders Forgotten
Wonders Forgotten
Wonders Forgotten
Wonders Forgotten
Wonders Forgotten
Wonders Forgotten
Wonders Forgotten
Wonders Forgotten
Wonders Forgotten
Wonders Forgotten
Wonders Forgotten
Wonders Forgotten
Wonders Forgotten
Wonders Forgotten
Wonders Forgotten
Wonders Forgotten
Wonders Forgotten
Wonders Forgotten
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Lol... nice.
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Could you put that in x5 form instead of extended? Thanks!
Also, I think all of the defense is unnecessary. You could simply give you opponent half of the lost souls card 20 times...
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We don't need to be giving advice on it. :P ::)
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especially since if i red robs thread correctly max deck size t1 is 150 t2 is 250 now
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Yeah, that's what I meant.
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Could you put that in x5 form instead of extended? Thanks!
Also, I think all of the defense is unnecessary. You could simply give you opponent half of the lost souls card 20 times...
Yeah, sorry this is how It came off of RTS. I probably should have taken the time to condense it.
I'll Try to condense it later. I still have it on RTS if anyone wants to play me!
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I'll Try to condense it later. I still have it on RTS if anyone wants to play me!
I'd be interested in playing it, but only if you let my deck be illegal, too. ;)
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why is it so big?
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why is it so big?
Because he feels a need to abuse Gates of Hell.
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why is it so big?
Because he feels a need to abuse Gates of Hell.
I don't think I have that card. What does it do?
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Lol, you are new! :D
Take a look at this thread (http://www.cactusgamedesign.com/message_boards/index.php?topic=17015.0) for all the cards from the new set.
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Lol, you are new! :D
Take a look at this thread (http://www.cactusgamedesign.com/message_boards/index.php?topic=17015.0) for all the cards from the new set.
Thanks. Those looks like cool cards
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The deck limit was needed. You can discard until you get a 3-liner if you haven't drawn the necessary cards yet. Gates of Hell pwns. What's the new limit? It still may work with the new limit depending on number of 3-liners you add.
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Lol, the limit is 150...so 3. :P
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Cards in deck: 999
With that many cards and to actually buy that deck you may wind up living in a literal "house of cards" :D
Good thing Rob's deck limit saved you from homelessness! :P