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Standalone defense - is there anything better than this?
« on: August 20, 2011, 08:31:09 PM »
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Gomer
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Amalekite's Slave
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King Belshazzar
Leviathan
King of Tyrus
Haman's Plot
Belshazzar's Banquet
Nebuchadnezzar's Pride


Add Nebushadan at your pleasure. King of Tyrus is iffy, as crazy as that is.

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Re: Standalone defense - is there anything better than this?
« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2011, 08:34:04 PM »
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I still support Armor Bearer, Goliath, and Outpost in standalones.

>_>

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Re: Standalone defense - is there anything better than this?
« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2011, 08:35:21 PM »
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Solid. But Gomer and KoT are only meh now being that ALOT of the awesome battle winners are CBP.

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Re: Standalone defense - is there anything better than this?
« Reply #3 on: August 20, 2011, 08:36:21 PM »
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So now people are using Nebby two years after I was ranting about he was the best EC in the game :(.

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Re: Standalone defense - is there anything better than this?
« Reply #4 on: August 20, 2011, 08:37:50 PM »
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Solid. But Gomer and KoT are only meh now being that ALOT of the awesome battle winners are CBP.

Gomer can band to my opponent's defense (since no one will play Wall due to Goliath Threats). King of Tyrus is definately iffy, but if he's the first EC your draw, chances are he can get an early cheap block. He can also negate annoying protect from capture or banding heros.


So now people are using Nebby two years after I was ranting about he was the best EC in the game :(.

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Re: Standalone defense - is there anything better than this?
« Reply #5 on: August 20, 2011, 08:38:39 PM »
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also good to play plot on.
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Re: Standalone defense - is there anything better than this?
« Reply #6 on: August 20, 2011, 08:39:29 PM »
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also good to play plot on.

I figured that was pretty obvious, but yeah, I should have mentioned it.

Also, this defense assumes you are not using a Genesis offense.

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Re: Standalone defense - is there anything better than this?
« Reply #7 on: August 20, 2011, 08:40:29 PM »
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Only because you taught me  :-* And because Belshazzar is awesome.
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Re: Standalone defense - is there anything better than this?
« Reply #8 on: August 20, 2011, 08:41:15 PM »
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Iknowrite? sogood.

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Re: Standalone defense - is there anything better than this?
« Reply #9 on: August 20, 2011, 08:41:34 PM »
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to the face.
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Re: Standalone defense - is there anything better than this?
« Reply #10 on: August 20, 2011, 08:42:30 PM »
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As sad as it is, this defense is probably better than most single color 7/7 or 8/8 defense splits. That's kinda pathetic.

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Re: Standalone defense - is there anything better than this?
« Reply #11 on: August 20, 2011, 08:44:45 PM »
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i count 6+ blocks. not too shabby.
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Re: Standalone defense - is there anything better than this?
« Reply #12 on: August 20, 2011, 08:47:23 PM »
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i count 6+ blocks. not too shabby.

Especially since people use chumpy offense like Red now :-*

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Re: Standalone defense - is there anything better than this?
« Reply #13 on: August 20, 2011, 09:52:06 PM »
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Midianite Attack? Nice on Leviathan.
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Re: Standalone defense - is there anything better than this?
« Reply #14 on: August 21, 2011, 06:19:40 PM »
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I still support Armor Bearer, Goliath, and Outpost in standalones.

>_>
Goliath can be a serious liability in lategame.
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Re: Standalone defense - is there anything better than this?
« Reply #15 on: August 22, 2011, 04:16:58 PM »
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I still support Armor Bearer, Goliath, and Outpost in standalones.

>_>
Goliath can be a serious liability in lategame.

If you get to lategame with a defense like that, you'll probably already have lost.

I probably wouldn't use Nebby's Pride, since it can be interrupted. Interruptable battle-winning EEs ftl.
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Re: Standalone defense - is there anything better than this?
« Reply #16 on: August 22, 2011, 04:21:21 PM »
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its probably one of the best utility evil enhancements in the game. interrupt, battle winner, hard to protect from, good numbers, non with nebby, searchable with nebby.
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Re: Standalone defense - is there anything better than this?
« Reply #17 on: August 22, 2011, 04:33:35 PM »
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its probably one of the best utility evil enhancements in the game. interrupt, battle winner, hard to protect from, good numbers, non with nebby, searchable with nebby.

MKC get it.

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Re: Standalone defense - is there anything better than this?
« Reply #18 on: August 22, 2011, 05:05:16 PM »
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its probably one of the best utility evil enhancements in the game. interrupt, battle winner, hard to protect from, good numbers, non with nebby, searchable with nebby.

I agree, I just have a hard time thinking of an EE as being worth the slot when most offenses either have ways to make their battle winners CBI/N, or they have ItBWinners themselves. I would definitely agree that it's probably the single best negatable EE in the game.
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Re: Standalone defense - is there anything better than this?
« Reply #19 on: August 22, 2011, 06:05:56 PM »
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If you're looking for the smallest and most efficient defense possible, this is probably about as good as it gets. Not a whole lot of fun though...
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Re: Standalone defense - is there anything better than this?
« Reply #20 on: August 22, 2011, 09:38:46 PM »
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The absolute best small defense is Dreaming Pharaoh, Cupbearer, Baker, Magicians, Warden, Horses, Swift Horses, Wonders Forgotten, Failed Objective.
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Re: Standalone defense - is there anything better than this?
« Reply #21 on: August 22, 2011, 09:47:09 PM »
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are egyptian wise men considered to be magicians since they have the same verse as egyptian magicians?
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Re: Standalone defense - is there anything better than this?
« Reply #22 on: August 22, 2011, 09:57:23 PM »
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The absolute best small defense is Dreaming Pharaoh, Cupbearer, Baker, Magicians, Warden, Horses, Swift Horses, Wonders Forgotten, Failed Objective.

You forgot invoking terror.

are egyptian wise men considered to be magicians since they have the same verse as egyptian magicians?

Nope, because it only specifies they are the Wisemen from the verse, not the Magicians.

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Re: Standalone defense - is there anything better than this?
« Reply #23 on: August 22, 2011, 11:00:28 PM »
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i count 6+ blocks. not too shabby.

Especially since people use chumpy offense like Red now :-*
What are you going to do against the Centurion at Calvary, again? I think he negates every one of your plays.
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Re: Standalone defense - is there anything better than this?
« Reply #24 on: August 22, 2011, 11:05:44 PM »
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i count 6+ blocks. not too shabby.

Especially since people use chumpy offense like Red now :-*
What are you going to do against the Centurion at Calvary, again? I think he negates every one of your plays.

Find someone playing with Cent at Calv and we'll talk.

 


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