Author Topic: ROUT--Random Online Unofficial Tournament--Round Robin begins! (Read 16535 times)

Prof Underwood · « **Reply #25 on:** January 06, 2010, 09:45:53 AM »

Quote from: Professoralstad on January 05, 2010, 02:11:46 PM

The deck you send me is the one you use for the tourney, whether it's your first, second, tenth or 30000th.

The seems like it could be a problem. If I generated 30000 decks, I'm sure I could find one in there that was actually pretty decent even if it were random. I would have a distinct advantage over people who only tried to make 1 deck.

On the other hand, there is nothing (other than the honor system) that could ensure that people are even creating random decks to begin with, much less using their first one. So I don't really have a solution, just wanted you to be aware of the problem.

Professoralstad · « **Reply #26 on:** January 06, 2010, 11:11:09 AM »

Quote from: Prof Underwood on January 06, 2010, 09:45:53 AM

Quote from: Professoralstad on January 05, 2010, 02:11:46 PM
The deck you send me is the one you use for the tourney, whether it's your first, second, tenth or 30000th.
The seems like it could be a problem. If I generated 30000 decks, I'm sure I could find one in there that was actually pretty decent even if it were random. I would have a distinct advantage over people who only tried to make 1 deck.

On the other hand, there is nothing (other than the honor system) that could ensure that people are even creating random decks to begin with, much less using their first one. So I don't really have a solution, just wanted you to be aware of the problem.

You raise valid points. The reason I am not concerned so much with it is that I don't think people would spend that much time generating hundreds or thousands of decks waiting for the right one, all to try to win a tournament where the best prize could be an Angry Mob. The tournament is mostly for fun, with the chance to get really lucky if you win (and I randomly select AoC Promo as the prize). I want people to be able to generate several decks and choose one so that they can compete with someone who may have gotten a decent deck on their first time. For example, if I were to generate a deck with one 4/4 hero and no enhancements for him, why would I even play in the tournament if that were the deck I had to use? I am aiming for randomness as the primary force behind the tournament, but I think that it is reasonable to allow a certain measure of benefit for extra effort.

As far as the potential non-randomness issue, all of the entrants so far have sent me decks that seemed reasonably random. I suppose that some of them could have just been very well disguised as a random deck, but I honestly doubt it. If I see a deck that makes me suspicious, then as I have said, I will make sure to deal with that on a case-by-case basis.

I do appreciate your concerns, and I have considered those issues, but I have determined that they won't be a problem from my perspective.

Crashfach2002 · « **Reply #27 on:** January 06, 2010, 01:17:10 PM »

We also talked about the fact that one person could build many random decks and then assign them to players, which would limit the amount of cheating. But it was determined that players would be more interested if they could at least build their own deck.

Professoralstad · « **Reply #28 on:** January 07, 2010, 03:25:34 PM »

Still one and a half more days to join! Question for those of you who have joined: would you mind allowing AIM and/or chess chat as a venue for playing games? I know it's not ideal, but I do want to encourage more players to join, so I'm currently thinking yes. Let me know by tomorrow if you have concerns about that. Also, if you had said you wanted to join and have not yet sent me a decklist, please do so. Thanks!

Alex_Olijar · « **Reply #29 on:** January 07, 2010, 04:49:34 PM »

I would much prefer they not be allowed - using those two implies that whoever needs them is using a physical deck. Sounds like a slowdown to me.

Tracer Burnout · « **Reply #30 on:** January 07, 2010, 05:19:29 PM »

Quote from: Alex_Olijar on January 07, 2010, 04:49:34 PM

I would much prefer they not be allowed - using those two implies that whoever needs them is using a physical deck. Sounds like a slowdown to me.

I agree and I don't have time for another system quite honestly. Hamachi is about all I got

Crashfach2002 · « **Reply #31 on:** January 08, 2010, 09:51:31 AM »

I e-mailed you my deck yesterday!

Professoralstad · « **Reply #32 on:** January 08, 2010, 09:56:30 AM »

Got it. Thanks!

Professoralstad · « **Reply #33 on:** January 08, 2010, 10:02:17 AM »

15 hours left to join! Currently there are six players in the tournament, it'd be great to have at least eight. Also, because of the preferences of current tournament players, RTS WILL be a requirement.

Isildur · « **Reply #34 on:** January 08, 2010, 10:15:31 AM »

Id be up for it I should have a deck up soon.

Professoralstad · « **Reply #35 on:** January 08, 2010, 10:17:22 AM »

Awesome! Just send me a decklist and you're in!

Professoralstad · « **Reply #36 on:** January 09, 2010, 11:22:54 AM »

Hey everyone!

The final particpants are entered, and the first round pairings are listed on the second post. There will be four rounds, and each round will last one week, unless all the games are finished early, in which case we can start round two sooner. Games for round one must be finished by 12 AM CST Saturday, Jan 16, unless there is an issue that merits an extension. I have created the following Hamachi group for everyone to join to make it easier to find each other. Please do not join unless you are part of ROUT.

Name: Redemption_ROUT
Password: Random

Please post results on this thread, giving players, winners, and scores.

Thanks for participating, and have fun!

Crashfach2002 · « **Reply #37 on:** January 09, 2010, 05:01:19 PM »

sk beat me in our scheduled game 5-4. If only he had 1 more lost soul!

Alex_Olijar · « **Reply #38 on:** January 14, 2010, 09:44:33 PM »

Hey, heads up, I discovered today my Hamachi is not working. I am working on fixing teh problem in order to participate in this, because it will be awesome. Pending further updates though, I can not play.

Professoralstad · « **Reply #39 on:** January 15, 2010, 11:35:22 AM »

Quote from: Alex_Olijar on January 14, 2010, 09:44:33 PM

Hey, heads up, I discovered today my Hamachi is not working. I am working on fixing teh problem in order to participate in this, because it will be awesome. Pending further updates though, I can not play.

Well let me know if you can get it fixed. If you can get it fixed in the next few days, I don't think an extension should be a problem, as only one of the three games has been completed so far.

RDT and STAMP? You guys still up for this? I haven't heard anything from either of you.

STAMP · « **Reply #40 on:** January 15, 2010, 11:38:09 AM »

I sent RDT a PM. I'm ready to play today, tomorrow or Sunday.

Professoralstad · « **Reply #41 on:** January 15, 2010, 11:45:20 AM »

Alright, sounds good.

Red Dragon Thorn · « **Reply #42 on:** January 15, 2010, 11:58:45 AM »

STAMP, I don't think I have you in any of my networks. If I'm wrong let me know, I'm on now and will be for pretty much the rest of the weekend.

Professoralstad · « **Reply #43 on:** January 15, 2010, 01:16:04 PM »

If you guys don't share networks, please join this one:

Name: Redemption_ROUT
Password: Random

Red Dragon Thorn · « **Reply #44 on:** January 15, 2010, 02:27:05 PM »

I managed to beat STAMP earlier today in a great game,

I didn't draw many souls early, and those that I did I locked away in sites.

STAMP · « **Reply #45 on:** January 15, 2010, 02:29:25 PM »

*instapost*

RDT won in a simply awesome game even with the score being 5-1! I was this close to coming back several times, and in each instance RDT had the right answer. It was epic! I don't want to give anything else away but I do have to reveal that I used Delilah with Wickedness of Delilah to destroy an unbeatable band. And I actually needed the name on name bonus!!

I haven't had so much fun since,...well since Nats!

Red Dragon Thorn · « **Reply #46 on:** January 15, 2010, 02:34:25 PM »

Yeah, Delilah was awesome, totally caught me off guard, I was hoping you would block with her, since I couldn't kill the other one you had, But I wasn' expecting that!

Professoralstad · « **Reply #47 on:** January 15, 2010, 04:36:09 PM »

Glad to hear you guys are enjoying it! Scores will be updated shortly.

Alex, any updates on your Hamachi situation? If you think it could get resolved in the next few days, then I'll wait, otherwise I might have to give this one to Tracer. Given the four rounds however, one loss doesn't mean you are out of contention, if you think you'll be able to play the next round.

Alex_Olijar · « **Reply #48 on:** January 15, 2010, 05:42:00 PM »

I'll have some time to mess with it tonight and tommorow. I will update you then on if I have solved or, or at least know what is wrong.

Alex_Olijar · « **Reply #49 on:** January 17, 2010, 04:01:13 PM »

I have it fixed I believe. Tracer, I am PMing you about when you can play now.

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Author Topic: ROUT--Random Online Unofficial Tournament--Round Robin begins! (Read 16535 times)

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