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Hello everyone--

Welcome to ROUT, the Random Online Unofficial Tournament. I am your host, Professoralstad. If you would like to participate in the ROUT, please read the following:

WHAT YOU NEED:

1. A method for RANDOMLY generating a deck. This post http://www.cactusgamedesign.com/message_boards/index.php?topic=19018.0 has a few ideas of approved methods. If you have another method, please let me know so I can approve it before allowing entracnce of your deck. Any method that is truly random will be allowed.

2. RTS--this may be loosened to include just AIM if enough players who can't use RTS want to join, and the other players don't mind AIM games. I would appreciate any thoughts and comments, but for now, RTS is a requirement.

3. A decklist of ONE randomly generated deck you will use in the tournament, and the method you used to generate it. I will preview all of the decks before the tournament, and if I find one that looks to good to be true, I may need to discuss my concerns with you, and you'll have to convince me it's authentic. You can PM me the list, or email it to: jsalstad@gmail.com

4. Time to play games with people online. If you are always busy with school or work, and have limited time to play Redemption, it will be hard to coordinate games with others. And that would be sad.

5. A good sport attitude.

Here's how it will work:

Once I have the names of all of the entrants, I will determine the necessary number of rounds. Each round will last no more than one week from the time it is set up (a few exceptions may be possible). The tournament will be a swiss style T1 tournament (like official Redemption tournaments) round robin style tournament with 3 pts for a win, 1.5 pts for a tie, and 0 for a loss. Byes will be 3 pts with 0 LS differential. Forfeits will result in -3 LS differential for the forfeiter, and 3 pts and +3 differential for the opponent

Everyone will play everyone once, and game points, then head-to-head matchups, then LS differential will determine the winner (i.e. if A, B and C all have 9 points at the end, and A beat B, B beat C, C beat A, then LS diff is necessary--I don't foresee that happening though...)

Games played to this point will count.

There will be no time limits for the games (since online games are generally longer) but if it comes down to neither player being able to get 5, then the person with the most LS's will get 2 pts, and the opponent 1 pt.

At the end of the tourney, the 1st place winner will receive a randomly selected UR, Promo, or TxP from my collection (except Faithful Servant and Grapes of Wrath, which are not in my collection). The 2nd place winner will receive a randomly selected rare, FooF or RoA card, and the 3rd place winner will receive a randomly selected un/common (besides Haman's Plot). 4th place will receive a randomly selected phrase meaning approximately "Honorable mention". Random selection of prizes will occur using Cameron's method in the linked post above, where the program will be repeated until the necessary rarity is chosen.

If you have any questions or comments, feel free to post, PM, or email them to me. All entrants must send me a deck list and their desire to enter by 12:00 AM CST, Saturday, January 9, 2010. Rule changes are possible, but will be well announced.

Now get out there and have some randomly generated fun!

Question, and I hate to ask it but, does this require an ability to use RTS?

Question, and I hate to ask it but, does this require an ability to use RTS?

can i play via chess chat?cuz that's like my only way to play?

For now, RTS is a requirement, but like I said in my original post, that may be loosened to include AIM, depending on what other players think. RED, I don't think chess chat will be allowed, as I imagine most people would not enjoy that particular form of playing games. However, if the other players in the tournament say it's okay, then I will probably allow it.

Yeah, sorry about that. If you would like, you can send me a decklist, and I can confer with the other players if that is acceptable to play that way, and perhaps you can join. But I want to avoid forcing anyone to play in a way that is so cumbersome, as Chess chat would be.

I'm in!

I'm in as well.

I'm not completely sure how Hamachi works, but I don't think both need to have Hamachi, just the host.  I think that one could just have their opponent PM the Hamachi IP to them, but I'm not completely sure.

And if it's just the small decks, I'm ok with Hamachi.

Quote from: Red Dragon Thorn on January 04, 2010, 04:06:53 PM

I'm so in, I predict the likely hood of rescuing Demons to be mildly higher in this than normal play

Maybe.  But I have a surefire way to create the ultimate random deck.  I'm going to ask each of Tiger Woods' girlfriends to think of a number between 10 and 2190.  

Well, if you do that, let me know what you come up with. Also, I'm sure there are several tabloid editors who would love to see a list of 50+ of Tiger's girlfriends...

For the rest of you, I will enter your names as I receive your decklists. RR, Hamachi isn't necessary for RTS, all you need to do is have the host PM or AIM you their IP to connect to them. So Hamachi isn't a requirement, just RTS and a way send your IP.

What you need to do is forward the RTS port through your router so it won't matter.  If you can tell me what router you are behind and what version of Windows you are using, I think I could help you get it set up.

Quote from: Red Dragon Thorn on January 04, 2010, 04:06:53 PM

I'm so in, I predict the likely hood of rescuing Demons to be mildly higher in this than normal play

Maybe.  But I have a surefire way to create the ultimate random deck.  I'm going to ask each of Tiger Woods' girlfriends to think of a number between 10 and 2190.   

Wow!!  ha ha...Wow!!

For the rest of you, I will enter your names as I receive your decklists
 

So I’m assuming with this that means that we will play with the same deck all month and then perhaps switch to a new one the next month? 

Also, I’m in!  Perhaps I will be able to win THIS tournament!

And this is my decklist!  Looks kinda okay.  Some enhancements for  each of my characters
Cards in deck: 56
Lost Souls: 7
   Lost Soul
   Lost Soul
   Lost Soul
   Lost Soul
   Lost Soul
   Lost Soul (Anti Angel)
   Lost Soul (human)

Fortresses: 3
   Demonic Stronghold
   Kingdoms of the World
   The Trap of the Devil

White Sites: 1
   Herod's Dungeon

Red Sites: 1
   Lion's Den

Blue Sites: 1
   Roman Prison

Multi-Color Heroes: 2
   Jehoram the Priest (Teal)
   Joiada, Son of Eliashib (Teal)

White Heroes: 1
   Susanna

Red Heroes: 3
   Abishai
   David
   Rahab

Blue Heroes: 1
   Seth

Purple Heroes: 3
   Hosea
   Lois
   Prince Jonathan

Multi-Color Hero Enhancements: 2
   Capturing Canaan (red/gold)
   Ears to Hear

Silver Hero Enhancements: 3
   Innumerable
   Sixth Seal, The
   Spiritual Sight

White Hero Enhancements: 3
   Child of Great Wisdom
   Demons in Chains
   Moses and Elders

Red Hero Enhancements: 2
   Authority of Peter
   Buckler

Gold Hero Enhancements: 1
   Fearlessness of Joshua

Green Hero Enhancements: 1
   Paul's Books and Parchments

Blue Hero Enhancements: 2
   A Wife for Isaac
   Ehud's Dagger

Purple Hero Enhancements: 1
   Prayer of Faith

Crimson Evil Characters: 1
   Nebushasban

Gold Evil Characters: 2
   King Jehoiakim
   Pharaoh Neco

Pale Green Evil Characters: 2
   Esau, the Hunter
   King Sargon II

Brown Evil Characters: 5
   Abner
   Athaliah
   King Jeroboam I
   King Omri
   Korah

Crimson Evil Enhancements: 1
   Habitation of Demons

Gold Evil Enhancements: 1
   Subject Deserted

Pale Green Evil Enhancements: 1
   Rage

Black Evil Enhancements: 2
   High Priest's Plot
   Vain Vision

Gray Evil Enhancements: 2
   Bow and Arrow
   Scoff at Angels

Tracer, You're deck needs one less lost soul, and then one more randomly added card. Otherwise it looks good.

Crashfach, sounds good, but please try to get me a decklist by Friday night.

Also, I would like to remind everyone to please email/pm me your decklists so that I can look over them. You will not be considered entered until I have your decklist in email/pm form. My email is jsalstad@gmail.com. This just ensures that I know who's participating and with what deck. Posting them here or in the other thread is okay as well if you'd like, but then everyone gets to see what you have, and I'm not requiring it. You can only enter one deck of the ones you generate, but feel free to generate as many as you like.

I look forward to seeing your entries.

 

So I can enter only one deck, but I can generate until I get one I like? I plan on entering.

That's what I thought, but the way Prof worded like I was not sure.

That's what I thought, but the way Prof worded like I was not sure.

The deck you send me is the one you use for the tourney, whether it's your first, second, tenth or 30000th.

A question about lost souls: are we using 7 non-SA, 7 that we select, or 7 generated randomly?

I answered this on the other thread, but here it is again for easier reference. It's just like Booster Draft, in that you can use any soul that you "draft", then add generic LS's to get 7.