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Re: Pre-Local Tourney meta game, call to arms
« Reply #25 on: December 08, 2010, 12:41:37 PM »
+1
Also, no JiP, Wrath, or Foolish Advice?

I didn't abbreviate so I'd appreciate the same courtesy.  I don't know what you mean by JiP.  Wrath, do you mean Wrath of Satan? I don't own it.  Foolish Advice, I think I might have one.  Let me check it out...  

JiP= joseph in prison
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Re: Pre-Local Tourney meta game, call to arms
« Reply #26 on: December 08, 2010, 12:43:06 PM »
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Also, no JiP, Wrath, or Foolish Advice?

I rather play bringing fear over f.a.

and you really don't need lug in there imo...but it does boost up the other color dudes xp
wait. no fallen warrior with philly chariot and horses?

say whaaaaa?

used both, fun together, very fun, but found myself pitching horses to recur for blockers with outpost.

and that's why pride of simon needs to be in there too xp

I just cut Pride of Simon, didn't use it.  Probably ended up pitching to outpost.  I just don't remember getting to use it much.

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Re: Pre-Local Tourney meta game, call to arms
« Reply #27 on: December 08, 2010, 12:44:35 PM »
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I ditch the enhancement i wanna use with outpost go in play pride of simon and get the exact enhancement you wanna play back. and if you're like me, using king amon & manasseh, you can get even more back XD
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Re: Pre-Local Tourney meta game, call to arms
« Reply #28 on: December 08, 2010, 12:47:25 PM »
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Also, no JiP, Wrath, or Foolish Advice?

I didn't abbreviate so I'd appreciate the same courtesy.  I don't know what you mean by JiP.  Wrath, do you mean Wrath of Satan? I don't own it.  Foolish Advice, I think I might have one.  Let me check it out...  

JiP= joseph in prison
wrath=wrath of satan

Thank you bags, I don't own Wrath of Satan. I do have Joseph in Prison, I've considered it.  I don't like having to removed my cards from the game, it would hurt Pride of Simon if I put it back in and I wouldn't be able to recur the removed Philly.  The guy I'm meta gaming against runs a lot of negates, purple & green. Remember the tread, cards to break through his defense.  We're getting a little distracted with my defense.  He plays defense heavy.

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Re: Pre-Local Tourney meta game, call to arms
« Reply #29 on: December 08, 2010, 12:51:04 PM »
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I ditch the enhancement i wanna use with outpost go in play pride of simon and get the exact enhancement you wanna play back. and if you're like me, using king amon & manasseh, you can get even more back XD

thanks, something for me to consider....hmmm.  I might of been playing Outpost & Pride of Simon ineffectively.  I was tried that last tourney due to a couple hours of airsoft prior to tourney.

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Re: Pre-Local Tourney meta game, call to arms
« Reply #30 on: December 08, 2010, 12:52:36 PM »
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one combo i do when i go against disciples is make them band in and then block with simon the magician and play joseph in prison. CBN baby lol


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Re: Pre-Local Tourney meta game, call to arms
« Reply #31 on: December 08, 2010, 12:54:52 PM »
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one combo i do when i go against disciples is make them band in and then block with simon the magician and play joseph in prison. CBN baby lol


*btw it's 3-Liner  ;)

I could hear an evil laugh

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Re: Pre-Local Tourney meta game, call to arms
« Reply #32 on: December 08, 2010, 12:57:41 PM »
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and he's good for two shiney arts too XD


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mwahahahahahahahaha lol *cough* sorry about that..... heh
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Re: Pre-Local Tourney meta game, call to arms
« Reply #33 on: December 08, 2010, 01:00:57 PM »
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and he's good for two shiney arts too XD


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mwahahahahahahahaha lol *cough* sorry about that..... heh

magic charms and.....????

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Re: Pre-Local Tourney meta game, call to arms
« Reply #34 on: December 08, 2010, 01:02:27 PM »
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the other shiney art  ;D i don't just wanna tell ya

*even though i kinda did in meh last post. I just found this out last week myself. seriously lol
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Re: Pre-Local Tourney meta game, call to arms
« Reply #35 on: December 08, 2010, 01:15:58 PM »
+1
JiP is a silver bullet against Disciples. All your Discards will avail you naught if he's got HT, JiP (especially on Simon) will end his best two Disciples.

I suggested David's Mighty Men as a card to punch through his defense. Asahel is your best friend against his deck, and he's even friendlier when you have a CBN battle-winner to force him to burn some cards with HT or even win you the battle if he doesn't have HT yet. Also, no Zeal? That's 1/2 the point of Phinehas. Holy Ground and Might of Faith can go for those two. Furthermore, Ezra's Journey isn't that great and should be replaced with either David's Triumph or Holy unto the Lord.

P.S. Using common abbreviations is standard operating procedure. It's not a courtesy to not use them. There's a list of the most common ones, but usually you'll pick it up pretty soon/easily if you pay attention. If I had used any unusual abbreviations that would be a different story (there are some people here who would abbreviate Ezra's Journey as EJ for example, and nobody would know what they were talking about).
« Last Edit: December 08, 2010, 01:19:09 PM by Minister Polarius »
I am not talking about T2 unless I am explicitly talking about T2. Also Mayhem is fine now somehow!

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Re: Pre-Local Tourney meta game, call to arms
« Reply #36 on: December 08, 2010, 01:17:42 PM »
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Also, no JiP, Wrath, or Foolish Advice?

I don't think I have Foolish Advice, I got to double check when I get home.

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Re: Pre-Local Tourney meta game, call to arms
« Reply #37 on: December 08, 2010, 01:27:08 PM »
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Right now your only effective enhancement to use on Simon is Babel, and if you use that against a Purple offense, the AoC is going to come swiftly. Joseph in Prison really needs to be in there. Simon/JiP is also the best character/enhancement counter to The Garden Tomb band, which is another hugely popular offense.
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Re: Pre-Local Tourney meta game, call to arms
« Reply #38 on: December 08, 2010, 01:44:40 PM »
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Right now your only effective enhancement to use on Simon is Babel, and if you use that against a Purple offense, the AoC is going to come swiftly. Joseph in Prison really needs to be in there. Simon/JiP is also the best character/enhancement counter to The Garden Tomb band, which is another hugely popular offense.

True, I did notice that considering Bringing Fear, Land Dispute & Overwhelmed by Philistines all need to be played by Philistines. TGT isn't currently making an appearance in our play group so I'm not worried about it.  Should I keep Simon?  What would you suggest to switch for Joseph in Prison?

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Re: Pre-Local Tourney meta game, call to arms
« Reply #39 on: December 08, 2010, 02:26:41 PM »
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Lost Souls: 7
Female Only
NT Only
3 Liner
Negater
Shuffler
Exchanger
Prevent Card Draw (DI)

Artifacts: 4
3 Nails * opponent using demons
Covenant with Moses * opponent using Household Idols & Unholy Writ
Captured Ark
Unsuccessful

Dominants: 9
Son Of God
New Jerusalem
Burial
Destruction of Nehushtan
Angel of The Lord
Harvest Time
Falling Away
Mayhem
Christian Martyr

Forts: 2
Wall of Pro
Philistine Outpost

Sites: 2
Ashdod
Nazareth * opponent's mayhem has been haunting me, I'm getting nightmares, lol

Good Enhancements: 9
Balance
Trumpet & Sword
The Might of Faith
The Battle is the Lord's
Holy Ground
A Soldier's Prayer
Trumpet Blast
Ezra's Journey
Scapegoat

Heroes: 9
The Centurion at Calvary
The Centurion at Capernaum
Jephthah
Asahel
Abishai
Phinehas, Son of Eleazar
Zadok
Ahimaaz
Eliashib the High Priest

Evil Enhancements: 7
Lying Unto God
Land Dispute
Overwhelmed by Philistines * opponents are using purple offense
Bringing Fear
Devourer
Goliath's Armor * opponents are using purple offense
Babel


Evil Characters: 7
Philistine Garrison
The 12 Fingered Giant
Philistine Armor Bearer
Saph
Ishbibenob
Lahmi
Simon the Magician * opponents are using NT Disciples

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I would start by taking out the cards I've marked and adding these:
Joseph in Prison
Joshua the High Priest
Zeal for the Lord
David's Mighty Men

I also noticed you have DoN, Cap Ark, Covenant with Moses and Ly. unto God--are artifacts really causing you that much of a problem?

Another thing to consider, if your opponent has Nazareth, you have two cards (Cap Ark and Mayhem) that are nearly useless. I say nearly because you do have Outpost which can use them as discards, but not if you've already drawn them.
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Re: Pre-Local Tourney meta game, call to arms
« Reply #40 on: December 08, 2010, 02:52:31 PM »
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Yeah, his artifacts.  He runs Household Idols, Unholy Writ, Wastelands, Golden Calf and Confusion of the Mind.  The last two mess me up a lot.  Unsuccessful can swap with Joseph In Prison. Eliashib the High Priest recurs my Wall of Pro because he runs Romans Destroy Jerusalem, but I could swap him out.  I'd just hate for someone to band to one of my characters and form a banding chain.  I had Zeal for the Lord in my last version, but I never seemed to use it, most the time I'd end up having to discard Saph, Ishbibenob or Lahmi with one of their guys.  True about Nazareth.


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Re: Pre-Local Tourney meta game, call to arms
« Reply #41 on: December 08, 2010, 02:58:59 PM »
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If u use Outpost, then having Nazareth in your deck is a very bad idea; it protects ALL decks from search, so your Outpost would be pretty ineffective. Harvest Time would be useless too.

Freedom! is pretty much required in any offense w/ red, so I'm not sure why it's missing. You can get rid o' Balance for it. Where's Chariot o' Fire?

I agree w/ the other suggestions.

Hmmm, that's a good point.  I threw in Harvest time since last tourney all my opponents seem to never draw any lost souls.  I had Freedom in one of my earlier versions, but I ended up taking it out.  I still got it, maybe I could consider it again.  I could take out Balance, I haven't used it before; I 'just' threw it in there last night.  Don't really know how effective it'll be.  I had Chariots, but decided to take it out last night after much thought.  I have 9 heroes.  I really wanted to throw in Falling Away & Harvest Time, but I can change around.  thanks for the input.

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Re: Pre-Local Tourney meta game, call to arms
« Reply #42 on: December 08, 2010, 03:46:30 PM »
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Hopper would be better than Harvest Time, since that also helps when you're facing a site deck and it makes your deck a card faster.

Nazareth probably needs to come out because you're using Outpost, good catch Master Q.

Taking out Nazareth would also allow you to add Zadok Annoints Solomon.

+1 with Freedom--one of the best battle winners in the game.

Even if you do discard one of your guys with Zeal, it's worth it to have a CBN battle winner, especially since you have EC recursion.

If he's using Disciples/Green, he probably doesn't have any banding that can grab your Heroes, so dont worry too much about Wall.
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Re: Pre-Local Tourney meta game, call to arms
« Reply #43 on: December 08, 2010, 06:00:08 PM »
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I don't own a hopper. I'm worried about him banding to my evil characters. I'm about to begin tweaking my deck again, I'm so excited! You all have been a great help! 

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Re: Pre-Local Tourney meta game, call to arms
« Reply #44 on: December 08, 2010, 06:31:07 PM »
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the other shiney art  ;D i don't just wanna tell ya

*even though i kinda did in meh last post. I just found this out last week myself. seriously lol
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Re: Pre-Local Tourney meta game, call to arms
« Reply #45 on: December 08, 2010, 07:18:56 PM »
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It begins with a "D" and ends with a "arius' Decree."
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Re: Pre-Local Tourney meta game, call to arms
« Reply #46 on: December 08, 2010, 09:16:57 PM »
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Re: Pre-Local Tourney meta game, call to arms
« Reply #47 on: December 08, 2010, 10:08:49 PM »
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It begins with a "D" and ends with a "arius' Decree."

crap forgot about dd. but red is right. it's swj
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Re: Pre-Local Tourney meta game, call to arms
« Reply #48 on: December 08, 2010, 10:47:55 PM »
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how could you not be playing with Buckler?

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Re: Pre-Local Tourney meta game, call to arms
« Reply #49 on: December 09, 2010, 10:16:57 AM »
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or old school helmet of brasses?
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