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New and improved spam free Meta Game thread
« on: January 29, 2009, 07:07:06 AM »
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Take II!!!!
Ok, discuss Meta Game:
As I had said before, deck archetypes have Meta Game. You can design a deck to obliterate one king of opposing deck, but be killed by the rest at a tourny. Good for revenge (sold separately, not recommended) but bad for winning tournaments. The different archetypes are decks that floated to the top because they had good meta game; I.E. they won most of the time.
So, what's on the horizon meta~wise?
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Re: New and improved spam free Meta Game thread
« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2009, 08:14:35 AM »
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thank you metalspalm 8) 8) ;D and now down to it here is the metagame FBTN,
speed, heroless,genesis,and angels i think.
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Re: New and improved spam free Meta Game thread
« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2009, 08:30:57 AM »
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There is a lot more than that. You can desribe the metagame like that. It's too abstract.

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Re: New and improved spam free Meta Game thread
« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2009, 06:03:36 PM »
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well you have to know the good decks what are they
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Re: New and improved spam free Meta Game thread
« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2009, 06:41:21 PM »
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You think I have an inside track? hehe, well..... I'm thinking large decks with multiple copies of battlewinners ect
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Re: New and improved spam free Meta Game thread
« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2009, 06:43:31 PM »
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i'm thinking FBTN will win nats
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Re: New and improved spam free Meta Game thread
« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2009, 07:00:43 PM »
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Hahaha. FBTN? No way. CBN decks are way to much in vogue for that to occur.

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Re: New and improved spam free Meta Game thread
« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2009, 07:08:47 PM »
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fbtn is still viable
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Re: New and improved spam free Meta Game thread
« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2009, 07:11:22 PM »
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How on earth is a FBTN based deck viable in today's metagame?

100% of decks have 1-2 CBN battlewinners on both sides of the deck, at least.
I would guess that about 50% of these decks use more than that.

I would guess at least 10-20% of decks are based on a CBN combo, or use multiple CBN combos.

There have been no new adds to aid FBTN in recent sets.

How does this make for a viable tournament strategy? If we want to keep going on why it doesn't work, I'd love to.

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Re: New and improved spam free Meta Game thread
« Reply #9 on: January 29, 2009, 07:13:12 PM »
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what i ain't seen that many cbn cards
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Re: New and improved spam free Meta Game thread
« Reply #10 on: January 29, 2009, 07:18:37 PM »
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Wow, you need to play some mroe. They are everywhere.

AoCp is a virtual staple.
Teal has about 60% of its offense in CBN.
Genesis has about 40% of its offense in CBN, plus a pre-battle ignore possiblity.
Brown has the two most devestating CBN cmobos arguably.
Crimson has a super CBN character, as does Gray.

CBN is in every deck, period. It's not something you can ignore.

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Re: New and improved spam free Meta Game thread
« Reply #11 on: January 29, 2009, 07:20:19 PM »
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well how about judges?
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Re: New and improved spam free Meta Game thread
« Reply #12 on: January 29, 2009, 07:21:59 PM »
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Deborah's directive is CBN. Additionally, Judges Seat will take out most FBTN defensive characters with their high numbers.

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Re: New and improved spam free Meta Game thread
« Reply #13 on: January 29, 2009, 07:23:12 PM »
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i play judges they rock!
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Re: New and improved spam free Meta Game thread
« Reply #14 on: January 29, 2009, 08:37:24 PM »
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I'm not sure what this thread is about, but I can't imagine a situation where that last post wouldn't be considered spam. ;)
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Re: New and improved spam free Meta Game thread
« Reply #15 on: January 29, 2009, 09:55:38 PM »
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Im thinking Deacons will wipe the floor at Nats.
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Re: New and improved spam free Meta Game thread
« Reply #16 on: January 30, 2009, 03:02:27 AM »
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After they lose to heroless ;)
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Re: New and improved spam free Meta Game thread
« Reply #17 on: January 30, 2009, 06:29:28 PM »
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Re: New and improved spam free Meta Game thread
« Reply #18 on: February 01, 2009, 08:55:44 AM »
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CBN is in every deck, period. It's not something you can ignore.
Actually it is, as long as you play the ignore first.
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Re: New and improved spam free Meta Game thread
« Reply #19 on: February 09, 2009, 08:34:40 AM »
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lets discuss please ;D ;D ;D ;) ;)
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Re: New and improved spam free Meta Game thread
« Reply #20 on: February 09, 2009, 04:29:41 PM »
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SPAM!!! Ha! Change the title please. ;D
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Re: New and improved spam free Meta Game thread
« Reply #21 on: February 09, 2009, 06:10:19 PM »
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I would say decks that play a mind game with your opponent are on the rise. These decks have one combo(s) or a strategy that will win you the game once set up, and most of the time your opponent will never see them coming until it's too late. And if your opponent can figure out what it is during the game before it's set up, then he'll probably win.
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Re: New and improved spam free Meta Game thread
« Reply #22 on: February 09, 2009, 07:03:02 PM »
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i'd have to say tgt is big
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Re: New and improved spam free Meta Game thread
« Reply #23 on: February 27, 2009, 08:27:16 AM »
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please metagame talk please.
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