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Redemption® Collectible Trading Card Game HQ => Deck Building & Design => Deck Concepts => Topic started by: Isildur on February 08, 2009, 11:38:14 PM
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Ok heres the idea I play sowing the seed on my self. Set one of my good pharisees aside with Doc like Levin and have Mirac hankies out and I have a never ending amount of good and evil characters what do you think?
The problems ill have are if Mirac hankies is gone... so yeah...
Pharies/Sads/Never Ending fun
Cards in deck: 63
Lost Souls: 8
Lost Soul (can't be prevented)
Lost Soul (discarder)
Lost Soul (female only)
Lost Soul (N.T. only)
Lost Soul (punisher)
Lost Soul (shuffler)
Lost Soul (Wanderer)
Lost Souls (site guard)
Lamb Dominants: 4
Angel of the Lord
Guardian Of Your Souls
New Jerusalem
Son of God
Grim Reaper Dominants: 3
Christian Martyr
Destruction of Nehushtan
Falling Away
Fortresses: 4
High Priest's Palace
Storehouse
Wall of Protection
City O Refuge
Multi-Color Sites: 1
The Ends of the Earth
Artifacts: 4
Holy Grail
Wool Fleece
Miraculous Handkerchiefs
The Bronze Laver
Red Heroes: 2
Gamaliel
Mentor
Blue Heroes: 2
Claudia
Nicodemus
Multi-Color Hero Enhancements: 3
Preaching the Truth
Spiritual Warfare
Faith in our high priest
Green Hero Enhancements: 7
Tears for a friend
David's Music
New Priestly Duty
Plague of Frogs
Repentance
Sowing the Seed
Unity in Christ
Red Enh:1
Walking on water
Black Evil Characters: 7
Alexander (take out for either torment or 2/4 g/h black card forgot what it was called.)
High Priest Ananias
High Priest Caiaphas
Sadducees
Sadducees
Sadducees
Sadducees
Gray Evil Characters: 6
Hard-Hearted Religious Leaders
High Priest Annas
Pharisees
Pharisees
Pharisees
Saul/Paul
Multi-Color Evil Enhancements: 3
Doctrine Like Leaven (black/gray)
Just a Hireling (black/gray)
Sanhedrin
Black Evil Enhancements: 4
Babel
Foolish Advice
High Priest's Plot
Net
Gray Evil Enhancements: 4
Balaam's Disobedience
Deadly Snare
Demonic Snare
Snare
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Wait, so you're saying that you'll put Sowing the Seed on a sadducee, then before it's converted set it aside with Doctrine like Leaven, so it becomes a hero while in set-aside? Because Miraculous Handkerchiefs doesn't protect Evil Characters.
Play As: Heroes in holder's territory and set-aside area are protected from poisons, diseases, and discard special abilities. Delay the effects of all poisons and diseases currently effecting holder's Heroes.
Not sure what you meant, but it sounds cool. I hope it works ;)
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I think High Priests' Palace covers that case.
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No no no
I play sowing the seed on some random Sad. Then I play Doc like Lev on one of my good Phari's like Gam, Nico, or Paul with mirac hankies up so the set aside hero doesnt die. And the idea is that I have a never ending amount of good and evil characters after that.
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Wow, thats a really cool idea! I'm assuming you would have never ending Evil Characters as you expect your opponent to defeat some of your newly converted heros in battle so they are discarded?
I also assume that you play Doctrine Like Leaven while blocking a rescue attempt, as you can not otherwise set aside your hero with the enhancement.
Kirk
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Wow, thats a really cool idea! I'm assuming you would have never ending Evil Characters as you expect your opponent to defeat some of your newly converted heros in battle so they are discarded?
Yeah you got that right. The only problem with the deck ive seen so far besides the Mirac Hankie getting discard is its some what lack of enhansments, but the mass amounts of characters I think should more then make up for that.
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The problems ill have are if Mirac hankies is gone... so yeah...
The only problem with the deck ive seen so far besides the Mirac Hankie getting discard...
If this is so critical for your deck, then why isn't a temple and LotS in there?
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...wow never though of that :P thanks for the idea
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Uhm I am sustainer would probably work better instead of hankies.
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how bout both. One as back-up or DoN fodder.
Godspeed,
Mike
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I don't think I am Sustainer has any effect in the set aside area. Handkerchiefs specifies set aside areas so that is why that is helpful.
Kirk
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It doesn't? Doh!
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Heres anouther draft of this deck this one has a few minor changes but they seemed to help.
Cards in deck: 63
Lost Souls: 8
Lost Soul (can't be prevented)
Lost Soul (discarder)
Lost Soul (female only)
Lost Soul (N.T. only)
Lost Soul (punisher)
Lost Soul (shuffler)
Lost Soul (Wanderer)
Lost Souls (3-line)
Lamb Dominants: 4
Angel of the Lord
Guardian Of Your Souls
New Jerusalem
Son of God
Grim Reaper Dominants: 3
Christian Martyr
Destruction of Nehushtan
Falling Away
Fortresses: 5
City of Refuge
High Priest's Palace
Solomon's Temple
Storehouse
Wall of Protection
Multi-Color Sites: 1
The Ends of the Earth
Artifacts: 6
Holy Grail
Holy of Holies
Lampstand of the Sanctuary
Miraculous Handkerchiefs
The Bronze Laver
Wool Fleece
Red Heroes: 2
Gamaliel
Mentor
Blue Heroes: 2
Claudia
Nicodemus
Multi-Color Hero Enhancements: 2
Preaching the Truth
Spiritual Warfare
Green Hero Enhancements: 7
David's Music
New Priestly Duty
Plague of Frogs
Repentance
Sowing the Seed
Tears for a Friend
Unity in Christ
Black Evil Characters: 7
High Priest Ananias
High Priest Caiaphas
Sadducees
Sadducees
Sadducees
Temple Guard
Temple Guard
Gray Evil Characters: 5
High Priest Annas
Pharisees
Pharisees
Pharisees
Saul/Paul
Multi-Color Evil Enhancements: 3
Doctrine Like Leaven (black/gray)
Just a Hireling (black/gray)
Sanhedrin
Black Evil Enhancements: 5
Babel
Foolish Advice
High Priest's Plot
Net
Pride of Simon
Gray Evil Enhancements: 3
Balaam's Disobedience
Deadly Snare
Snare
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He uses Holy grail to make a green hero, Hey isildur, wanna tell them about our game? ;)
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Which lol I talked about one of them on the Fave Game thread.
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This is amazing! :o
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Backward Shadow
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Backward Shadow
Haha nice
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Backward Shadow
Oh wow, that's just wrong! :D
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So I feel like I'm missing something obvious, but doesn't Doctrine as Leaven specify "generic Evil Character" of the type set aside? I'm confused as to how you can recur heroes that are neither generic nor evil with Doctrine...
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Doctrine Like Leaven
Type: Evil Enh. • Brigade: Black/Gray • Ability: None • Class: None • Special Ability: Set aside a Pharisee or Sadducee and decrease it 0/1 per turn. Each upkeep phase, search your discard pile for a generic Evil Character of the type set aside. Place it in your territory.
"type set aside" = "Pharisee" or "Sadducee"
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Right, but what about the part that specifies that the character searched for has to be generic and Evil? Gamaliel, Nicodemus, and Paul are neither of those.
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BUT, if you use that +sowing the seed in your own territory....
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I just typed up a big long response, and then I got it. Fail for me. :P
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I just typed up a big long response, and then I got it. Fail for me. :P
Don't worry, it wasn't obvious to me when I first saw it either. Isildur is a step above the rest when it comes to brilliant combos. Maybe not quite at the RR level, but then again who is? :D
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as awesome as this combo is, I don't see how the defence will hold up. what happens if they have FBTN? you can't band.
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Hey, that's not a half-bad question. What would you do in a btn situation? ??? Here's an Idea: besieged. :)
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He dies, painfully. If his HOH dies that is. (kot killed his entire defense)
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You mean offense. And can you use backwards shadow on heros who are being discarded from set aside?
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I would say so but they would go to play. And, sorta both, sowing killed ur defense, and your offense was well XD
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hehehe but when will ever play a game like that again :P
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You mean offense. And can you use backwards shadow on heros who are being discarded from set aside?
That wouldn't help, what I meant was to use Backward Shadow on a hero you plan to set aside with Doctrine like Leaven beforehand, so you can have a never-ending supply of sadducees/pharisees without the need of Miraculous Handkerchiefs.
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You mean offense. And can you use backwards shadow on heros who are being discarded from set aside?
That wouldn't help, what I meant was to use Backward Shadow on a hero you plan to set aside with Doctrine like Leaven beforehand, so you can have a never-ending supply of sadducees/pharisees without the need of Miraculous Handkerchiefs.
Just d/c someone from hand!